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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
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    Thanks, I'm just glad it wasn't more serious. The bike shop I got it from is pretty solid: free tune-ups basically forever, and a serious discount on heavier work. Their mechanic is a good guy and he's always done me a solid, so I'm sure they can figure it out. But likely this falls under some kind of warranty. Sure, I've taken the thing on a couple of centuries but there's no way I put more than 1k on that chain.

    Please love yourself.

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      Ouch.

      Oh, and ouch.

      β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Glad it wasn't worse, Mr. Safety. πŸ™‚

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • Catseye3C Catseye3

          Glad it wasn't worse, Mr. Safety. πŸ™‚

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          @catseye3 said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

          Glad it wasn't worse, Mr. Safety. πŸ™‚

          I wore shoes today.

          πŸ‘

          Please love yourself.

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            Klaus
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            180 lbs weight limit? I've never seen that. The lowest weight limit I've seen is 110kg (240 lbs). Got an example of a high-end bike with such a low weight limit?

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              What’s the difference in torque and energy on an ebike cogset vs regular bike?

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              • KlausK Klaus

                180 lbs weight limit? I've never seen that. The lowest weight limit I've seen is 110kg (240 lbs). Got an example of a high-end bike with such a low weight limit?

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                @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                180 lbs weight limit? I've never seen that. The lowest weight limit I've seen is 110kg (240 lbs). Got an example of a high-end bike with such a low weight limit?

                Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                When I worked at a bike shop, I remember there was a brand we carried that came out with an interesting bike: a track bike with 650s and some slightly interesting geometry changes. It was my thought that maybe it would make for a good city bike, making slow turns a lot easier. (Hell, probably trackstands, too.)

                We reached out to the company to get a demo bike to see if we wanted to get more for our inventory. I remember my manager making the call right beside me. They said sure, and asked what size. He told them my bike size.

                "(Laughing) I don't think we have one that size, can I send you some other size?"
                "It says on the website you make them that large, so can you just send one that size?"
                "We don't have that one available. Why do you want one so large?"
                "Because the guy who wants to try this out rides that size."
                "Can't you just get someone else who rides a smaller bike?"
                (To my manager's credit, he didn't budge. I still don't know why he said this, it's not like he owed me anything.) "No, this is his idea, so if you want to sell these bikes at our location, you're going to have to sell us a demo in that size."
                "Well, we're not going to have that one available."
                "(Laughs) Like, ever?"
                CLICK.

                Do you get that? We were trying to buy a demo bike, with the idea that maybe we'd carry (read: buy) more, and they couldn't be bothered getting one together with a larger frame.

                One thing I've learned over the past seven years is that the road cycling community, at least here, is pretty prejudiced over large and tall people. I don't give a fuck how that sounds, I've quit jobs over it, and so have overs I've worked with. It's one of many reasons why I sneer at that particular industry.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                  180 lbs weight limit? I've never seen that. The lowest weight limit I've seen is 110kg (240 lbs). Got an example of a high-end bike with such a low weight limit?

                  Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                  When I worked at a bike shop, I remember there was a brand we carried that came out with an interesting bike: a track bike with 650s and some slightly interesting geometry changes. It was my thought that maybe it would make for a good city bike, making slow turns a lot easier. (Hell, probably trackstands, too.)

                  We reached out to the company to get a demo bike to see if we wanted to get more for our inventory. I remember my manager making the call right beside me. They said sure, and asked what size. He told them my bike size.

                  "(Laughing) I don't think we have one that size, can I send you some other size?"
                  "It says on the website you make them that large, so can you just send one that size?"
                  "We don't have that one available. Why do you want one so large?"
                  "Because the guy who wants to try this out rides that size."
                  "Can't you just get someone else who rides a smaller bike?"
                  (To my manager's credit, he didn't budge. I still don't know why he said this, it's not like he owed me anything.) "No, this is his idea, so if you want to sell these bikes at our location, you're going to have to sell us a demo in that size."
                  "Well, we're not going to have that one available."
                  "(Laughs) Like, ever?"
                  CLICK.

                  Do you get that? We were trying to buy a demo bike, with the idea that maybe we'd carry (read: buy) more, and they couldn't be bothered getting one together with a larger frame.

                  One thing I've learned over the past seven years is that the road cycling community, at least here, is pretty prejudiced over large and tall people. I don't give a fuck how that sounds, I've quit jobs over it, and so have overs I've worked with. It's one of many reasons why I sneer at that particular industry.

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                  @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                  Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                  Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                  https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                  I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                  It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

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                  • KlausK Klaus

                    @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                    Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                    Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                    https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                    I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                    It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

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                    @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                    Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                    Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                    https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                    I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                    It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

                    Klaus knows how to use the internet! Very good, Klaus! What was the wheelset I was using, can you Google that for me? A lot of 'em have a weight limit of 80-90 kg or so. Would you like me to find examples of that or would you like to Google that, too? I've already started, so let me know if you'd like some links.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      #12

                      Glad you're ok, Aqua. That could have been well nasty.

                      I love my road bike (capacity ~250 lbs), and to be honest I love my Lycra despite the vast amounts of shit my family give me, and I really love my PROPER CYCLING SHOES. I don't think I've owned a pair of sandles since I was 12.

                      I probably need to replace my chain.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        Glad you're ok, Aqua. That could have been well nasty.

                        I love my road bike (capacity ~250 lbs), and to be honest I love my Lycra despite the vast amounts of shit my family give me, and I really love my PROPER CYCLING SHOES. I don't think I've owned a pair of sandles since I was 12.

                        I probably need to replace my chain.

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #13

                        @doctor-phibes said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                        Glad you're ok, Aqua. That could have been well nasty.

                        I love my road bike (capacity ~250 lbs), and to be honest I love my Lycra despite the vast amounts of shit my family give me, and I love my PROPER CYCLING SHOES. I don't think I've owned a pair of sandles since I was 12.

                        Fair enough. πŸ˜„ I suppose I should clarify that a person who rides a road bike and does the lycra thing doesn't bother me at all. Riding bikes is good. I just really dislike the road cycling community, which is not the same thing.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Oh, man....

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            This thread is good without pics

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              This thread is good without pics

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                              @horace said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                              This thread is good without pics

                              You're right. Nobody needs to see fucking sandals.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @doctor-phibes said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                Glad you're ok, Aqua. That could have been well nasty.

                                I love my road bike (capacity ~250 lbs), and to be honest I love my Lycra despite the vast amounts of shit my family give me, and I love my PROPER CYCLING SHOES. I don't think I've owned a pair of sandles since I was 12.

                                Fair enough. πŸ˜„ I suppose I should clarify that a person who rides a road bike and does the lycra thing doesn't bother me at all. Riding bikes is good. I just really dislike the road cycling community, which is not the same thing.

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                                @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                Glad you're ok, Aqua. That could have been well nasty.

                                I love my road bike (capacity ~250 lbs), and to be honest I love my Lycra despite the vast amounts of shit my family give me, and I love my PROPER CYCLING SHOES. I don't think I've owned a pair of sandles since I was 12.

                                Fair enough. πŸ˜„ I suppose I should clarify that a person who rides a road bike and does the lycra thing doesn't bother me at all. Riding bikes is good. I just really dislike the road cycling community, which is not the same thing.

                                I don't really like people, so I definitely don't belong to the road cycling community. I have been tempted to go out on an 'intermediate' bike ride organized by the local bike store, but I'm a little concerned that people might show up with triathlon handlebars and try and break me on the hills or something. Not that that would be particularly difficult.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                  Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                                  Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                                  https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                                  I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                                  It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

                                  Klaus knows how to use the internet! Very good, Klaus! What was the wheelset I was using, can you Google that for me? A lot of 'em have a weight limit of 80-90 kg or so. Would you like me to find examples of that or would you like to Google that, too? I've already started, so let me know if you'd like some links.

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                                  @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                  @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                  Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                                  Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                                  https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                                  I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                                  It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

                                  Klaus knows how to use the internet! Very good, Klaus! What was the wheelset I was using, can you Google that for me? A lot of 'em have a weight limit of 80-90 kg or so. Would you like me to find examples of that or would you like to Google that, too? I've already started, so let me know if you'd like some links.

                                  No, actually not "a lot of'em have weight limit of 80-90 kg". Why do you say that?

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                    Glad you're ok, Aqua. That could have been well nasty.

                                    I love my road bike (capacity ~250 lbs), and to be honest I love my Lycra despite the vast amounts of shit my family give me, and I love my PROPER CYCLING SHOES. I don't think I've owned a pair of sandles since I was 12.

                                    Fair enough. πŸ˜„ I suppose I should clarify that a person who rides a road bike and does the lycra thing doesn't bother me at all. Riding bikes is good. I just really dislike the road cycling community, which is not the same thing.

                                    I don't really like people, so I definitely don't belong to the road cycling community. I have been tempted to go out on an 'intermediate' bike ride organized by the local bike store, but I'm a little concerned that people might show up with triathlon handlebars and try and break me on the hills or something. Not that that would be particularly difficult.

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                                    @doctor-phibes said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                    I don't really like people, so I definitely don't belong to the road cycling community. I have been tempted to go out on an 'intermediate' bike ride organized by the local bike store, but I'm a little concerned that people might show up with triathlon handlebars and try and break me on the hills or something. Not that that would be particularly difficult.

                                    My experience with LBS rides is that they vary quite a lot, so might as well give it a try? Might work out!

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                      @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                      Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                                      Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                                      https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                                      I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                                      It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

                                      Klaus knows how to use the internet! Very good, Klaus! What was the wheelset I was using, can you Google that for me? A lot of 'em have a weight limit of 80-90 kg or so. Would you like me to find examples of that or would you like to Google that, too? I've already started, so let me know if you'd like some links.

                                      No, actually not "a lot of'em have weight limit of 80-90 kg". Why do you say that?

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                                      @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                      @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                      Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                                      Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                                      https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                                      I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                                      It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

                                      Klaus knows how to use the internet! Very good, Klaus! What was the wheelset I was using, can you Google that for me? A lot of 'em have a weight limit of 80-90 kg or so. Would you like me to find examples of that or would you like to Google that, too? I've already started, so let me know if you'd like some links.

                                      No, actually not "a lot of'em have weight limit of 80-90 kg". Why do you say that?

                                      No let's go back to you disproving a conversation I personally had with a Google search, that's exactly what I want to do this afternoon.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                        @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                        Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                                        Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                                        https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                                        I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                                        It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

                                        Klaus knows how to use the internet! Very good, Klaus! What was the wheelset I was using, can you Google that for me? A lot of 'em have a weight limit of 80-90 kg or so. Would you like me to find examples of that or would you like to Google that, too? I've already started, so let me know if you'd like some links.

                                        No, actually not "a lot of'em have weight limit of 80-90 kg". Why do you say that?

                                        No let's go back to you disproving a conversation I personally had with a Google search, that's exactly what I want to do this afternoon.

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                                        @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                        @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                        @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                        Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                                        Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                                        https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                                        I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                                        It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

                                        Klaus knows how to use the internet! Very good, Klaus! What was the wheelset I was using, can you Google that for me? A lot of 'em have a weight limit of 80-90 kg or so. Would you like me to find examples of that or would you like to Google that, too? I've already started, so let me know if you'd like some links.

                                        No, actually not "a lot of'em have weight limit of 80-90 kg". Why do you say that?

                                        No let's go back to you disproving a conversation I personally had with a Google search, that's exactly what I want to do this afternoon.

                                        I don't doubt your conversation. They didn't have a frame in your size. So what?

                                        But you talked about bikes with a weight limit of 180lbs as a common case, then shifted to wheels, and claimed that the whole bike industry is "prejudiced over large and tall people", citing your size and weight as an example. I think that part of your statement isn't true, have given you some evidence that it is in fact not true, and still wonder why you'd make those absurd claims.

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                          @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                          @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                          Not anymore as I give no fuck about road bikes anymore. One was a Felt, I remember that.

                                          Lowest rider weight limit of any Felt bike is 275 lbs.

                                          https://help.feltbicycles.com/knowledge/what-is-the-rider-weight-limit-of-my-felt-bike

                                          I'm about the same size as you, and I know of no bike model that I couldn't get in my size (current general supply shortages in the bike industry notwithstanding).

                                          It's completely fine that you don't give a fuck about road bikes, but I'm not sure whether your reasons for that are (still) sound.

                                          Klaus knows how to use the internet! Very good, Klaus! What was the wheelset I was using, can you Google that for me? A lot of 'em have a weight limit of 80-90 kg or so. Would you like me to find examples of that or would you like to Google that, too? I've already started, so let me know if you'd like some links.

                                          No, actually not "a lot of'em have weight limit of 80-90 kg". Why do you say that?

                                          No let's go back to you disproving a conversation I personally had with a Google search, that's exactly what I want to do this afternoon.

                                          I don't doubt your conversation. They didn't have a frame in your size. So what?

                                          But you talked about bikes with a weight limit of 180lbs as a common case, then shifted to wheels, and claimed that the whole bike industry is "prejudiced over large and tall people", citing your size and weight as an example. I think that part of your statement isn't true, have given you some evidence that it is in fact not true, and still wonder why you'd make those absurd claims.

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                                          @klaus said in Chain Failure. Eating it. Singlespeeds.:

                                          I don't doubt your conversation. They didn't have a frame in your size. So what?

                                          That's a very narrow interpretation of the conversation. The "so what" is everything else.

                                          But you talked about bikes with a weight limit of 180lbs as a common case, then shifted to wheels,

                                          I didn't "shift to wheels," bikes have wheels. They can be a reason why there is a lower weight limit on some bikes.

                                          I'll allow that I could be conflating the bike industry/the people in it/its customers with the bikes they make and ride. Maybe it's not the bikes. Sure.

                                          claimed that the whole bike industry is "prejudiced over large and tall people",

                                          I have a lot I could talk about on this particular front, but I'm not going to with you. It wouldn't be an open conversation, your agenda is to take my personal experiences, and compare it against a Google search to prove how absurd I'm being.

                                          You've never worked in the bike industry. You don't know the people I used to know. I didn't decide to get offended or quit jobs because of one conversation, or out of some arbitrary desire to pull some kind of bullshit victim card. I really don't care what you think about my personal experiences and I have nothing I need to prove to you. Write me off as being absurd.

                                          Please love yourself.

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