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Happy Father’s Day to all

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    The only person I can think of who I consider both Trumpist and a free thinker is Peter Thiel, but he's not much of a public intellectual. Only in the sense that he keeps his opinions pretty close most of the time (GOP convention speech notwithstanding)

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    Horace
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    @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

    The only person I can think of who I consider both Trumpist and a free thinker is Peter Thiel, but he's not much of a public intellectual. Only in the sense that he keeps his opinions pretty close most of the time (GOP convention speech notwithstanding)

    What has Peter theil said that makes him a Trumpist?

    VDH is a public intellectual and wrote The Case for Trump. Trumpist?

    I won’t ask you to attempt to define Trumpist. I’m just trying to triangulate it.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

      The only person I can think of who I consider both Trumpist and a free thinker is Peter Thiel, but he's not much of a public intellectual. Only in the sense that he keeps his opinions pretty close most of the time (GOP convention speech notwithstanding)

      What has Peter theil said that makes him a Trumpist?

      VDH is a public intellectual and wrote The Case for Trump. Trumpist?

      I won’t ask you to attempt to define Trumpist. I’m just trying to triangulate it.

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      #21

      @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

      What has Peter theil said that makes him a Trumpist?

      Gave a prime time speech for Trump at the GOP convention in 2016. Perhaps the only non-politician to do so who was not a grifter or a nut.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

        There’s a huge amount of baggage, personal and social, for such people to switch identifications.

        Be that as it may, that's not the main point. They actually see craziness and disfunction on both sides and are loathe to associate with either side, even in private.

        The ones that truly switch sides are pretty much uninteresting tools, like Dave Rubin or Jennifer Rubin.

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        @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

        @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

        There’s a huge amount of baggage, personal and social, for such people to switch identifications.

        Be that as it may, that's not the main point. They actually see craziness and disfunction on both sides and are loathe to associate with either side, even in private.

        Being above a binary political leaning is a fine personal preference but again it’s facile to say both sides suck. And a failure of thinking entirely to say both sides suck equally.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

          The only person I can think of who I consider both Trumpist and a free thinker is Peter Thiel, but he's not much of a public intellectual. Only in the sense that he keeps his opinions pretty close most of the time (GOP convention speech notwithstanding)

          What has Peter theil said that makes him a Trumpist?

          VDH is a public intellectual and wrote The Case for Trump. Trumpist?

          I won’t ask you to attempt to define Trumpist. I’m just trying to triangulate it.

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          jon-nyc
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          @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

          VDH is a public intellectual and wrote The Case for Trump. Trumpist?

          I would have to read more of him. That's not a cop out, its just that I mostly read him in the pre-Trump days when his beat was history.

          But to your point, maybe McCarthy fits that bill.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

            @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

            There’s a huge amount of baggage, personal and social, for such people to switch identifications.

            Be that as it may, that's not the main point. They actually see craziness and disfunction on both sides and are loathe to associate with either side, even in private.

            Being above a binary political leaning is a fine personal preference but again it’s facile to say both sides suck. And a failure of thinking entirely to say both sides suck equally.

            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nyc
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            @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

            @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

            @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

            There’s a huge amount of baggage, personal and social, for such people to switch identifications.

            Be that as it may, that's not the main point. They actually see craziness and disfunction on both sides and are loathe to associate with either side, even in private.

            Being above a binary political leaning is a fine personal preference but again it’s facile to say both sides suck. And a failure of thinking entirely to say both sides suck equally.

            Yes, we've had this conversation a bunch of times, Quirt.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

              What has Peter theil said that makes him a Trumpist?

              Gave a prime time speech for Trump at the GOP convention in 2016. Perhaps the only non-politician to do so who was not a grifter or a nut.

              HoraceH Online
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              Horace
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              @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

              @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

              What has Peter theil said that makes him a Trumpist?

              Gave a prime time speech for Trump at the GOP convention in 2016. Perhaps the only non-politician to do so who was not a grifter or a nut.

              Ok so that means he cared about the election results, preferred Trump, and did what he could to convince others. Trumpist remains dismissive and ill defined.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                There’s a huge amount of baggage, personal and social, for such people to switch identifications.

                Be that as it may, that's not the main point. They actually see craziness and disfunction on both sides and are loathe to associate with either side, even in private.

                Being above a binary political leaning is a fine personal preference but again it’s facile to say both sides suck. And a failure of thinking entirely to say both sides suck equally.

                Yes, we've had this conversation a bunch of times, Quirt.

                HoraceH Online
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                Horace
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                @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                @jon-nyc said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                @horace said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                There’s a huge amount of baggage, personal and social, for such people to switch identifications.

                Be that as it may, that's not the main point. They actually see craziness and disfunction on both sides and are loathe to associate with either side, even in private.

                Being above a binary political leaning is a fine personal preference but again it’s facile to say both sides suck. And a failure of thinking entirely to say both sides suck equally.

                Yes, we've had this conversation a bunch of times, Quirt.

                I suggest in those conversations, you were both wrong, with Quiet being right only when his points overlapped with what I just wrote.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #27

                  Since we’re talking about Trump in a Father’s Day thread....

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Jolly
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                    Trumpist, Tea-bagger, etc.

                    Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Trumpist, Tea-bagger, etc.

                      Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

                      Doctor PhibesD Online
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                      @jolly said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                      Trumpist, Tea-bagger, etc.

                      You forgot woketard

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @jolly said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                        Trumpist, Tea-bagger, etc.

                        You forgot woketard

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                        @doctor-phibes said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                        @jolly said in Happy Father’s Day to all:

                        Trumpist, Tea-bagger, etc.

                        You forgot woketard

                        I consider that a complement for most of those folks.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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