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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251117-the-animals-that-can-eat-poisons-and-not-die

    Elbows up!

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251117-the-animals-that-can-eat-poisons-and-not-die

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      @Renauda said in Mildly interesting:

      https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251117-the-animals-that-can-eat-poisons-and-not-die

      That's interesting. On a very loosely related subject, it struck me that if cats and dogs ever did go to war, the felines could triumph very quickly with the use of chocolate-based WMD's.

      I was only joking

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        In a new study published on Thursday, researchers sent a type of moss called Physcomitrium patens to the International Space Station (ISS). This moss didn't get to live in the comfy more-or-less Earth-like confines of the station, but rather was put outside into the harshness of space for nine months.

        https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/space-moss-9.6984791

        Elbows up!

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          Different times.

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          “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

          • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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          • bachophileB Offline
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            first presidential election i ever voted in. at hunter college on 68th street. remember like it was yesterday. i voted for jimmy.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              Mine was 1988. I voted for George H W Bush.

              “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

              • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  How did I not know this? It seems like the kind of fact you’d learn as a kid.

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                  “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                  • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                  • MikM Away
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                    Harry Chapin performed his final benefit concert with chest pain so sharp he gripped the mic stand between verses, hiding the fact that he had skipped a scheduled cardiology appointment because he refused to cancel a fundraiser feeding eleven thousand families a week. Fans saw generosity. His body was warning him to stop.
                    By the early 1980s, Chapin was running himself ragged. He played more than 200 shows a year, most of them benefits. His tour manager kept a ledger from 1980: 121 free concerts, 47 reduced-fee shows, and nearly $2 million raised for anti-hunger work. The numbers looked noble. They were also financially brutal. Chapin often covered travel expenses out of pocket, and his accountant documented one quarter where he earned only $18,000 despite selling out theaters nationwide.
                    His health declined under the pace. Doctors warned him in March 1981 that his blood pressure was dangerously high and urged him to slow down. He scheduled a follow-up appointment for July 16. When a Long Island food bank asked him to headline a fundraiser that same night, he told his manager, “People need the money. I’ll see the doctor later.” He never went.
                    On July 15 he rehearsed at the Eisenhower Park bandshell. Crew members noticed him rubbing his sternum between run-throughs. One sound technician later said, “He looked gray. But he kept talking about the families he wanted to help.” Chapin finished rehearsal and spent the evening reviewing notes for a national hunger commission meeting he planned to attend in Washington.
                    The next morning he drove to another event when his car stalled on the Long Island Expressway. Minutes later he died in a collision. At the time of his death he had only $200,000 in assets and more than $500,000 pledged to future benefit commitments.
                    Harry Chapin did not build his legacy on fame. He burned through money, time and health to feed people he would never meet, and he kept giving until the hour he ran out of chances.

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                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/11/26/tortoise-san-dego-zoo-death/

                      ‘Gramma,’ a tortoise who lived through 20 presidencies, dies at 141
Her life spanned a tumultuous period of U.S. and world history, from Chester Arthur to Donald Trump. To San Diegans, she was a beloved local celebrity.

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
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                        June 24, 1982. Over the Indian Ocean.

                        British Airways Flight 9—a Boeing 747 carrying 263 people—was cruising peacefully at 37,000 feet when the night sky began behaving strangely.

                        First came St. Elmo’s fire—an eerie blue glow crackling across the cockpit windows like electricity dancing on glass.

                        Then shimmering streaks appeared along the wings, as if the aircraft were trailing sparks through darkness.

                        Captain Eric Moody and his crew had never seen anything like it. Beautiful. Unsettling. Wrong.

                        Then came the engine failure alarm.

                        Engine four had failed.

                        Before they could process that, engine two quit.

                        Then engine one.

                        Then engine three.

                        In less than 90 seconds, all four engines on British Airways Flight 9 had stopped.

                        Complete. Total. Silence.

                        At 37,000 feet.

                        The Impossible Problem

                        A commercial jet losing one engine is manageable—they're designed to fly on three, or even two.

                        Losing two engines is a serious emergency requiring immediate landing.

                        Losing three engines is catastrophic but theoretically survivable.

                        Losing all four? That’s not supposed to happen. Ever.

                        Yet here was Captain Moody, flying a 300-ton glider with 263 souls aboard, no engines, no power, and no idea why.

                        The 747 was descending—13,000 feet lost in 23 minutes—and below them was the Indian Ocean and the mountainous Indonesian coastline.

                        They had minutes to figure out what had happened and somehow restart the engines before the aircraft became unflyable.

                        “Ladies and Gentlemen…”

                        In the cabin, passengers saw sparks outside their windows. Oxygen masks dropped. The cabin filled with acrid smoke that smelled like sulfur.

                        People began writing farewell notes to loved ones.

                        Then Captain Moody’s voice came over the intercom—calm, almost casual, with classic British understatement:

                        “Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them going again. I trust you are not in too much distress.”

                        A small problem.

                        All four engines stopped.

                        That announcement would become one of the most famous in aviation history—not just for its legendary understatement, but because what followed was even more remarkable.

                        Fighting for Survival

                        In the cockpit, controlled chaos.

                        Co-pilot Roger Greaves’ oxygen mask had broken, leaving him gasping for breath. Moody immediately descended—trading precious altitude for breathable air to save his co-pilot.

                        Flight Engineer Barry Townley-Freeman worked frantically through restart procedures while Senior First Officer Barry Fremantle handled communications with Jakarta ATC.

                        They tried restarting the engines.

                        Nothing.

                        Again.

                        Nothing.

                        They tried different procedures, different combinations, everything in the manual and things that weren’t.

                        Ten attempts. Twelve. Fifteen.

                        Each failure meant less altitude, less time, less chance of survival.

                        The aircraft descended through 15,000 feet. Then 14,000. Then 13,000.

                        At some point, they’d be too low to restart safely even if the engines came back.

                        They were running out of sky.

                        The Miracle

                        At 13,500 feet—with Jakarta’s mountainous terrain looming in darkness—engine four suddenly coughed, sputtered, and roared back to life.

                        Then engine three caught.

                        Then engine one.

                        Finally, engine two.

                        All four engines, dead for 13 minutes and 13,000 feet of descent, had somehow restarted.

                        The relief in the cockpit was overwhelming. They had power. They had control. They could fly again.

                        But they weren’t safe yet.

                        Flying Blind

                        The volcanic ash that had choked the engines had also sandblasted the cockpit windscreen.

                        The windows weren’t just dirty—they were opaque, abraded by millions of tiny ash particles traveling at 500 mph.

                        Captain Moody could barely see through them. Landing would require threading the aircraft through Jakarta’s airspace, lining up with a runway, and touching down—while essentially flying blind.

                        They used side windows for glimpses. They relied heavily on instruments. They followed radio guidance from Jakarta approach.

                        Somehow, impossibly, Moody brought the crippled 747 down safely at Halim Perdanakusuma Airport.

                        Not a single person died.

                        All 263 passengers and crew walked away.

                        The Invisible Enemy

                        Only after landing did investigators discover what had happened:

                        Mount Galunggung had been erupting for months. On June 24, 1982, it sent a massive ash cloud into the atmosphere—8 miles high, spreading for hundreds of miles.

                        Flight 9 had flown directly through it.

                        Volcanic ash is pulverized rock—tiny shards of glass suspended in air. It’s invisible to weather radar and nearly impossible to see at night.

                        When engines ingest it, the ash melts, coats internal components, and chokes the engines.

                        The engines restarted only because Moody descended below the ash cloud, where cooler air allowed the melted glass to solidify and break off.

                        Skill kept them alive long enough for luck to matter.

                        The Legacy

                        BA Flight 9 changed aviation forever:

                        Global volcanic ash detection systems were created

                        Airlines receive real-time eruption alerts

                        Flight paths are rerouted around ash

                        Pilots are trained for ash encounters

                        The International Airways Volcano Watch was established

                        Captain Eric Moody

                        Moody continued flying for British Airways until retirement. He’s remembered for his skill, composure, and the most iconic announcement in aviation history:

                        “We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped.”

                        The Lesson

                        The impossible sometimes happens. Prepare anyway.
                        Calm leadership saves lives.
                        Never give up—restart attempt #15 was the one that worked.
                        Learn from near-disasters so others don’t repeat them.

                        June 24, 1982.

                        All four engines died at 37,000 feet.
                        The crew had 13 minutes and 13,000 feet to solve an impossible problem.

                        They couldn’t see the ash cloud.
                        They couldn’t see the cause.
                        They couldn’t even see the runway.

                        But they could think.
                        They could act.
                        They refused to quit.

                        And 263 people survived because of it.

                        British Airways Flight 9: the night the sky went dark—and human skill brought everyone home.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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