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  • J Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 19 Jun 2025, 01:47 last edited by jon-nyc
    #2479

    Wyoming has the highest ratio but only ~half a million people. So two billionaires.

    One is Lukas Walton, a grandson of Sam Walton of Walmart, the other is a Swiss guy named Hansjörg Wyss.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 19 Jun 2025, 01:50 last edited by
      #2480

      Montana - 2 Cargill heirs, a Pritzger (Hyatt hotels) and a local self-made guy. In mining.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 19 Jun 2025, 12:37 last edited by
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        Meh, being a billionaire ain’t what it used to be. Being a millionaire is only upper middle class.

        The Brad

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          Mik
          wrote on 19 Jun 2025, 13:24 last edited by Mik
          #2482

          I remember in a finance class in the early 80's the teacher talking about how we'd all need $2 million to retire comfortably. I got the impression no one really listened, but I was a little older and did. He was pretty spot on.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 09:40 last edited by
            #2483

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 10:17 last edited by
              #2484

              This is sad.

              IMG_5914.jpeg

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • J jon-nyc
                20 Jun 2025, 10:17

                This is sad.

                IMG_5914.jpeg

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 10:28 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                This is sad.

                IMG_5914.jpeg

                Does it come down to institutional attitudes towards birth control or abortion, or the moral chastities of the cultures?

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                • J jon-nyc
                  19 Jun 2025, 01:44

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 10:31 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

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                  Wonder if there is a similar map for "self-made" billionaires.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    20 Jun 2025, 10:17

                    This is sad.

                    IMG_5914.jpeg

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 14:22 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                    This is sad.

                    IMG_5914.jpeg

                    It is.

                    Now overlay that map with one with abortion rates. My bet is that one is even sadder.

                    The Brad

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 15:04 last edited by
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                      Also sad.

                      IMG_5916.png

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 15:41 last edited by
                        #2489

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          20 Jun 2025, 15:04

                          Also sad.

                          IMG_5916.png

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 15:48 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                          Also sad.

                          IMG_5916.png

                          Wow, the numbers in the early 1900s were surprisingly high…

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 16:32 last edited by
                            #2491

                            That surprised me too. More spinsters as med died more frequently at a younger age?

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 16:58 last edited by
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                              Reagan broke it.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                20 Jun 2025, 16:32

                                That surprised me too. More spinsters as med died more frequently at a younger age?

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 16:59 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                #2493

                                @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                                That surprised me too. More spinsters as med died more frequently at a younger age?

                                I had a surprising number of maiden great aunts who were born in the 1890's, but I think that was probably due to WW1. The impact of that war would have been less noticeable in the US as a considerably smaller proportion of the male population died.

                                Did the US Civil War affect the 1900 figures?

                                I was only joking

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  20 Jun 2025, 16:59

                                  @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                                  That surprised me too. More spinsters as med died more frequently at a younger age?

                                  I had a surprising number of maiden great aunts who were born in the 1890's, but I think that was probably due to WW1. The impact of that war would have been less noticeable in the US as a considerably smaller proportion of the male population died.

                                  Did the US Civil War affect the 1900 figures?

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 17:03 last edited by
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mildly interesting:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                                  That surprised me too. More spinsters as med died more frequently at a younger age?

                                  I had a surprising number of maiden great aunts who were born in the 1890's, but I think that was probably due to WW1. The impact of that war would have been less noticeable in the US as a considerably smaller proportion of the male population died.

                                  Did the US Civil War affect the 1900 figures?

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mildly interesting:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                                  That surprised me too. More spinsters as med died more frequently at a younger age?

                                  I had a surprising number of maiden great aunts who were born in the 1890's, but I think that was probably due to WW1. The impact of that war would have been less noticeable in the US as a considerably smaller proportion of the male population died.

                                  Did the US Civil War affect the 1900 figures?

                                  That’s what I was wondering about…But then, there’s an old saw about there being no bigger boost in new marriages and babies than a war breaking out. Maybe that’s not as true as advertised.

                                  The Brad

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                                    20 Jun 2025, 16:58

                                    Reagan broke it.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 17:05 last edited by
                                    #2495

                                    @Axtremus said in Mildly interesting:

                                    Reagan broke it. The birth control pill broke it.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • L LuFins Dad
                                      20 Jun 2025, 17:05

                                      @Axtremus said in Mildly interesting:

                                      Reagan broke it. The birth control pill broke it.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 17:46 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Mildly interesting:

                                      @Axtremus said in Mildly interesting:

                                      Reagan broke it. The birth control pill broke it.

                                      Eisenstadt v. Baird was decided in 1972.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 18:01 last edited by
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                                        And you expect the cultural ramifications to be immediate? The majority of the women of 32 years of age were already married in 1972… This would have had far greater impact on women younger than 30, with the results becoming noticeable ~ 1980. It also coincides with higher divorce rates, and more women entering the workplace, which completely shifted the economy for good and ill.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          20 Jun 2025, 16:59

                                          @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                                          That surprised me too. More spinsters as med died more frequently at a younger age?

                                          I had a surprising number of maiden great aunts who were born in the 1890's, but I think that was probably due to WW1. The impact of that war would have been less noticeable in the US as a considerably smaller proportion of the male population died.

                                          Did the US Civil War affect the 1900 figures?

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                                          blondie
                                          wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 18:15 last edited by
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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mildly interesting:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Mildly interesting:

                                          That surprised me too. More spinsters as med died more frequently at a younger age?

                                          I had a surprising number of maiden great aunts who were born in the 1890's, but I think that was probably due to WW1. The impact of that war would have been less noticeable in the US as a considerably smaller proportion of the male population died.

                                          Did the US Civil War affect the 1900 figures?

                                          Me too. My great aunts raised my grandpa in MA. They were from Quebec and relocated to the U.S.. The way I heard it, it was due to the Spanish Flu .. grandpa’s parents died; he was left an orphan, but too young yet to work in factories there.
                                          Here, in Alberta, I know ladies, being the last (youngest) sisters, who never marry. They stay in their family homes to care for their parents. Not uncommon.

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