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    kluurs
    wrote on 18 Jul 2024, 23:21 last edited by
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    I had low expectations for this book as I haven't been a fanboy of Elon Musk, but I like the author, enjoyed the Steve Jobs biography - and the library system had the audiobook available free online.

    Well, it's excellent. I knew Musk was a little nuts - but it's been interesting learning a bit of his life story, how he thinks and how he has approached business. I don't know that I'd have him run Boeing - but he certainly would NOT have made the mistakes the current management made. Taking the Apple slogan - he thinks different. By way of example, He abhorred that the government was doing bidding on space initiatives on a cost plus basis - where the government did the specs and let people have cost overruns - due to the fact that a lot of the government specs are arbitrary or not thoroughly understood. He's gambler with a mission - and quite willing to "lose it all" on a roll of the dice. Musk thrives on risk - a bit like Trump - which is likely at least partly why he supports and understands Trump.

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    • K kluurs
      18 Jul 2024, 23:21

      I had low expectations for this book as I haven't been a fanboy of Elon Musk, but I like the author, enjoyed the Steve Jobs biography - and the library system had the audiobook available free online.

      Well, it's excellent. I knew Musk was a little nuts - but it's been interesting learning a bit of his life story, how he thinks and how he has approached business. I don't know that I'd have him run Boeing - but he certainly would NOT have made the mistakes the current management made. Taking the Apple slogan - he thinks different. By way of example, He abhorred that the government was doing bidding on space initiatives on a cost plus basis - where the government did the specs and let people have cost overruns - due to the fact that a lot of the government specs are arbitrary or not thoroughly understood. He's gambler with a mission - and quite willing to "lose it all" on a roll of the dice. Musk thrives on risk - a bit like Trump - which is likely at least partly why he supports and understands Trump.

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      George K
      wrote on 18 Jul 2024, 23:46 last edited by
      #829

      @kluurs thanks for the review - I'll seek it out. Isaacson's bios are very readable.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 27 Jul 2024, 15:47 last edited by
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        Why not?

        Screenshot 2024-07-27 at 10.46.45 AM.png

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          27 Jul 2024, 15:47

          Why not?

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 27 Jul 2024, 16:17 last edited by
          #831

          @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

          Why not?

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          Solid.

          Please love yourself.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 27 Jul 2024, 17:35 last edited by
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            I’m reading Isaacson’s Steve Jobs bio. Highly recommended.

            I might do the Musk one next, or soon at least.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • J jon-nyc
              27 Jul 2024, 17:35

              I’m reading Isaacson’s Steve Jobs bio. Highly recommended.

              I might do the Musk one next, or soon at least.

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              George K
              wrote on 27 Jul 2024, 17:38 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

              I’m reading Isaacson’s Steve Jobs bio. Highly recommended.

              Yeah, that was good.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                kluurs
                wrote on 27 Jul 2024, 18:13 last edited by
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                They're so good, I actually felt a little down after finishing each of Isaacson's books as they were so engaging - and I wanted to keep going - obviously more true with the Elon Musk book.

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                • T taiwan_girl
                  14 Jul 2024, 23:59

                  @jon-nyc said in What are you reading now?:

                  I re-read Rise and Fall about every ten years. It’s excellent.

                  Jon, I just started The Third Reich Trilogy

                  According to Ian Kershaw, it is "the most comprehensive history in any language of the disastrous epoch of the Third Reich".[5] It has been hailed as a "masterpiece of historical scholarship".[6]

                  There are three volumes:

                  The Coming of the Third Reich
                  The Third Reich in Power
                  The Third Reich at War

                  I just started the first volume. A bit difficult for me, not really knowing much about European history (talking about Bismarck, etc. and how that set the basis for Nazi's), but I will continue with it for the time being. Mr. Evans, in his "preface" says that he tried to write it not too academic, but not too simplistic.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 27 Jul 2024, 20:23 last edited by Renauda
                  #835

                  @taiwan_girl

                  The Coming of the Third Reich
                  The Third Reich in Power
                  The Third Reich at War

                  Evan’s trilogy is excellent historiography although as you say heavy reading. His style though flows well and therefore readable. I read it a couple of years ago. The parts dealing with Nazi racial theories, policies and acts of genocide because of their depressing nature, took a lot of effort to get through on my part.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda
                    27 Jul 2024, 20:23

                    @taiwan_girl

                    The Coming of the Third Reich
                    The Third Reich in Power
                    The Third Reich at War

                    Evan’s trilogy is excellent historiography although as you say heavy reading. His style though flows well and therefore readable. I read it a couple of years ago. The parts dealing with Nazi racial theories, policies and acts of genocide because of their depressing nature, took a lot of effort to get through on my part.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 29 Jul 2024, 00:51 last edited by
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                    @Renauda I am about 1/2 through the first book. Tough going at first as a lot of old German history, which I know nothing about (a lot of names, territories, etc.), but does give good background on the "foundation" to the Nazis. Starting to get a bit more familiar territory so hopefully easier for me to follow.

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                    • G George K
                      27 Jul 2024, 15:47

                      Why not?

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                      George K
                      wrote on 1 Aug 2024, 23:32 last edited by
                      #837

                      @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                      Why not?

                      Screenshot 2024-07-27 at 10.46.45 AM.png

                      It's a real slog. Too much introspection, too much "not moving the story along."

                      I suppose I'll finish it, but it's not as good as "Interview."

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      G Doctor PhibesD 2 Replies Last reply 12 Aug 2024, 23:33
                      • G George K
                        1 Aug 2024, 23:32

                        @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                        Why not?

                        Screenshot 2024-07-27 at 10.46.45 AM.png

                        It's a real slog. Too much introspection, too much "not moving the story along."

                        I suppose I'll finish it, but it's not as good as "Interview."

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                        George K
                        wrote on 12 Aug 2024, 23:33 last edited by
                        #838

                        @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                        It's a real slog. Too much introspection, too much "not moving the story along."

                        I suppose I'll finish it, but it's not as good as "Interview."

                        Yeah, this book was twice as long as it needed to be. But, I finished it.

                        Next up...

                        Screenshot 2024-08-12 at 6.33.33 PM.png

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          1 Aug 2024, 23:32

                          @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                          Why not?

                          Screenshot 2024-07-27 at 10.46.45 AM.png

                          It's a real slog. Too much introspection, too much "not moving the story along."

                          I suppose I'll finish it, but it's not as good as "Interview."

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 13 Aug 2024, 00:03 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                          @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                          @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                          Why not?

                          Screenshot 2024-07-27 at 10.46.45 AM.png

                          It's a real slog. Too much introspection, too much "not moving the story along."

                          I suppose I'll finish it, but it's not as good as "Interview."

                          I remember buying "Interview with the Vampire" while on holiday on a whim when it originally came out in the 70's (I must have been all of 13 or 14 so it would probably be considered totally unsuitable), and being completely blown away by it. I was massively disappointed by the sequel and I haven't read another Anne Rice novel since.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                            13 Aug 2024, 00:03

                            @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                            @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                            Why not?

                            Screenshot 2024-07-27 at 10.46.45 AM.png

                            It's a real slog. Too much introspection, too much "not moving the story along."

                            I suppose I'll finish it, but it's not as good as "Interview."

                            I remember buying "Interview with the Vampire" while on holiday on a whim when it originally came out in the 70's (I must have been all of 13 or 14 so it would probably be considered totally unsuitable), and being completely blown away by it. I was massively disappointed by the sequel and I haven't read another Anne Rice novel since.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 13 Aug 2024, 00:06 last edited by
                            #840

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in What are you reading now?:

                            I was massively disappointed by the sequel

                            It was remarkably weak - long, boring, and wordy.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              27 Jul 2024, 15:47

                              Why not?

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 13 Aug 2024, 00:48 last edited by
                              #841

                              @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                              Why not?

                              Screenshot 2024-07-27 at 10.46.45 AM.png

                              Because I’m straight?

                              The Brad

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                              • G George K
                                12 Aug 2024, 23:33

                                @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                It's a real slog. Too much introspection, too much "not moving the story along."

                                I suppose I'll finish it, but it's not as good as "Interview."

                                Yeah, this book was twice as long as it needed to be. But, I finished it.

                                Next up...

                                Screenshot 2024-08-12 at 6.33.33 PM.png

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 13 Aug 2024, 00:50 last edited by
                                #842

                                @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                                It's a real slog. Too much introspection, too much "not moving the story along."

                                I suppose I'll finish it, but it's not as good as "Interview."

                                Yeah, this book was twice as long as it needed to be. But, I finished it.

                                Next up...

                                Screenshot 2024-08-12 at 6.33.33 PM.png

                                I’m through the first couple of chapters. Good to start.

                                The Brad

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                                  bachophile
                                  wrote on 13 Aug 2024, 14:24 last edited by
                                  #843

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda
                                    27 Jul 2024, 20:23

                                    @taiwan_girl

                                    The Coming of the Third Reich
                                    The Third Reich in Power
                                    The Third Reich at War

                                    Evan’s trilogy is excellent historiography although as you say heavy reading. His style though flows well and therefore readable. I read it a couple of years ago. The parts dealing with Nazi racial theories, policies and acts of genocide because of their depressing nature, took a lot of effort to get through on my part.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 15:37 last edited by
                                    #844

                                    @Renauda said in What are you reading now?:

                                    @taiwan_girl

                                    The Coming of the Third Reich
                                    The Third Reich in Power
                                    The Third Reich at War

                                    Evan’s trilogy is excellent historiography although as you say heavy reading. His style though flows well and therefore readable. I read it a couple of years ago. The parts dealing with Nazi racial theories, policies and acts of genocide because of their depressing nature, took a lot of effort to get through on my part.

                                    Just finished the first volume. It was quite "heavy". Very very well researched. I don't think that Adolf Hitler or the Nazis were mentioned until more than 1/3 through the book. I will take a break but will definitely want to try the #2 and #3 volumes.

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                                      bachophile
                                      wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 19:00 last edited by
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                                      https://c.media-amazon.com/images/I/810stFXOyAL.SL1500.jpg
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                                      800 pages of WWII naval history. Love it.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 25 Aug 2024, 00:16 last edited by
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                                        Finished "Why We Sleep" as a re-read. Much better the 2nd time, and some things that were a blurry memory got firmly seated in my brain.

                                        One of the things that Walker says in the intro is that you don't have to read in order - feel free to skip what doesn't interest you.

                                        Highly recommended on my first read - and, on the 2nd.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • G George K
                                          25 Aug 2024, 00:16

                                          Finished "Why We Sleep" as a re-read. Much better the 2nd time, and some things that were a blurry memory got firmly seated in my brain.

                                          One of the things that Walker says in the intro is that you don't have to read in order - feel free to skip what doesn't interest you.

                                          Highly recommended on my first read - and, on the 2nd.

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 25 Aug 2024, 14:27 last edited by
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                                          @George-K Thanks George. I will have to try that one.

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