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Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 2 Jun 2021, 17:55 last edited by Doctor Phibes 6 Feb 2021, 17:56
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    But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

    I was only joking

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      2 Jun 2021, 17:55

      But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

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      Loki
      wrote on 2 Jun 2021, 18:28 last edited by
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      @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

      But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

      Hence the booster shot for us and no vaccine maker has warned that a booster for any mutant strain might not work Not so great for much of the world.

      But to your point the odds of a mutant strain resistant to current vaccines is much higher than non zero. Same problem for the “ I already had covid and don’t need a shot” crowd.

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        2 Jun 2021, 17:55

        But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

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        Mik
        wrote on 2 Jun 2021, 18:30 last edited by
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        @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

        But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

        I have read that this particular virus, or perhaps corona viruses in general, has limited ways it can mutate. I don't recall the details.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          2 Jun 2021, 18:30

          @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

          But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

          I have read that this particular virus, or perhaps corona viruses in general, has limited ways it can mutate. I don't recall the details.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 2 Jun 2021, 18:33 last edited by
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          @mik said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

          @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

          But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

          I have read that this particular virus, or perhaps corona viruses in general, has limited ways it can mutate. I don't recall the details.

          I hope that's true, but to be honest I've currently got a few trust issues regarding this kind of prediction.

          I was only joking

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            2 Jun 2021, 18:30

            @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

            But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

            I have read that this particular virus, or perhaps corona viruses in general, has limited ways it can mutate. I don't recall the details.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 3 Jun 2021, 00:36 last edited by
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            @mik said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

            @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

            But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

            I have read that this particular virus, or perhaps corona viruses in general, has limited ways it can mutate. I don't recall the details.

            I had hear that too. It has something to do with the structure of the "spike protein" and the limits to that structure.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 3 Jun 2021, 01:02 last edited by
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              @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

              But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

              1. the US unvaccinated accounts for .02% of the global unvaccinated. This virus isn’t going anywhere for a long time even if the US had 100% vaccination...

              2. Organisms (including viruses) adapt primarily due to environmental pressures. Odds are that a vaccine resistant strain will develop from the vaccinated. Not the unvaccinated.

              3. New vaccines are still being developed that target the actual virus and not the protein spikes. Those should minimize any danger from the various mutations.

              The Brad

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                2 Jun 2021, 18:28

                @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

                But the longer this bloody thing hangs around in large numbers, isn't the greater the chance of vaccine resistant strains developing?

                Hence the booster shot for us and no vaccine maker has warned that a booster for any mutant strain might not work Not so great for much of the world.

                But to your point the odds of a mutant strain resistant to current vaccines is much higher than non zero. Same problem for the “ I already had covid and don’t need a shot” crowd.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 3 Jun 2021, 01:05 last edited by
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                @loki said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

                @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

                But to your point the odds of a mutant strain resistant to current vaccines is much higher than non zero. Same problem for the “ I already had covid and don’t need a shot” crowd.

                Not really. Your vaccination protects you by identifying the spike protein. Natural Immunity recognizes the virus itself. That would take one hell of a mutation...

                The Brad

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                • L LuFins Dad
                  3 Jun 2021, 01:05

                  @loki said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

                  But to your point the odds of a mutant strain resistant to current vaccines is much higher than non zero. Same problem for the “ I already had covid and don’t need a shot” crowd.

                  Not really. Your vaccination protects you by identifying the spike protein. Natural Immunity recognizes the virus itself. That would take one hell of a mutation...

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 3 Jun 2021, 01:45 last edited by
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                  @lufins-dad said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

                  @loki said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

                  But to your point the odds of a mutant strain resistant to current vaccines is much higher than non zero. Same problem for the “ I already had covid and don’t need a shot” crowd.

                  Not really. Your vaccination protects you by identifying the spike protein. Natural Immunity recognizes the virus itself. That would take one hell of a mutation...

                  Be careful with this

                  This question doesn't depend on the immunology

                  This is the Rand Paul vs Tony Fauci question

                  Mr. Paul says I already had covid and don’t need a shot

                  Mr. Fauci says not true

                  Please check your politics to find the correct answer

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                    George K
                    wrote on 3 Jun 2021, 11:35 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad Update?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      3 Jun 2021, 11:35

                      @LuFins-Dad Update?

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 3 Jun 2021, 11:36 last edited by
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                      @george-k He started feeling better almost exactly 24 hours after symptoms set in.

                      He is planning on reaching out to the College and asking if one shot combined with his prior case is enough.

                      The Brad

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                      • L LuFins Dad
                        3 Jun 2021, 11:36

                        @george-k He started feeling better almost exactly 24 hours after symptoms set in.

                        He is planning on reaching out to the College and asking if one shot combined with his prior case is enough.

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                        brenda
                        wrote on 4 Jun 2021, 03:57 last edited by
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                        @lufins-dad said in Nothing worse than seeing your kid sick...:

                        @george-k He started feeling better almost exactly 24 hours after symptoms set in.

                        He is planning on reaching out to the College and asking if one shot combined with his prior case

                        Glad to hear he's feeling better already. If he was under the weather for only a day or two, maybe he'll be fine for a second round. I'm curious what he will hear from the college.

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