Flynn: Overthrow the government
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@george-k said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
Flynn: Time for a coup!
Powell:
I guess one question is whether these two whacko's are doing this with the support/permission of Donald "It's all about his policies" Trump.
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@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
File all this under fringe and not serious.
That's kind of what they said about the QAnon folks, and then somehow they managed to get into the Capitol building.
Yeah, yeah, I know, no harm done and all that. Still....
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@doctor-phibes said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
File all this under fringe and not serious.
That's kind of what they said about the QAnon folks,
Dude, that’s what we said about Trump back when he was pushing birther stuff.
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@jon-nyc said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
Are they now? Or do they still get major airtime on conservative TV channels?
I don't know, is this messaging getting "major airtime on conservative TV channels?" I would guess no. What do you guess? And which channels are you referring to, besides Fox?
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@doctor-phibes said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
File all this under fringe and not serious.
That's kind of what they said about the QAnon folks, and then somehow they managed to get into the Capitol building.
Yeah, yeah, I know, no harm done and all that. Still....
Yeah it should be monitored because of January 6. My point was it’s not real news and has little value except I wasn’t thinking about Jan 6 in the moment. And that’s another thing that was so wrong with Jan 6, everyone is aware what these so called “patriots” are capable of. Storming their own highest symbol of democracy.
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@jon-nyc said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@doctor-phibes said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
File all this under fringe and not serious.
That's kind of what they said about the QAnon folks,
Dude, that’s what we said about Trump back when he was pushing birther stuff.
I remember a discussion I had with an Irish relative, a really smart guy, back in 2015. I'd expressed some minor concerns about Trump, and he just laughed and laughed, and said America's always had these joke candidates and I shouldn't worry.
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@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
And that’s another thing that was so wrong with Jan 6, everyone is aware what these so called “patriots” are capable of. Storming their own highest symbol of democracy.
Don't be so melodramatic. The doors were unlocked and they were a mob in a partying mood.
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@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@doctor-phibes said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
File all this under fringe and not serious.
That's kind of what they said about the QAnon folks, and then somehow they managed to get into the Capitol building.
Yeah, yeah, I know, no harm done and all that. Still....
Yeah it should be monitored because of January 6. My point was it’s not real news and has little value except I wasn’t thinking about Jan 6 in the moment. And that’s another thing that was so wrong with Jan 6, everyone is aware what these so called “patriots” are capable of. Storming their own highest symbol of democracy.
If they had wanted to, there could have been a pitched gun battle and they probably could have burned the whole damn place to the ground.
They didn't.
I suspect they are a lot more worried about due process, fairness, equal treatment under the law, one man-one vote and the Deep State much more than you will ever be,
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@horace said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
And that’s another thing that was so wrong with Jan 6, everyone is aware what these so called “patriots” are capable of. Storming their own highest symbol of democracy.
Don't be so melodramatic. The doors were unlocked and they were a mob in a partying mood.
I get that. But I can’t explain it away to myself, so you have to ask yourself if the people who really decide elections….that 5 to 10% that can go either way, buy your narrative or not.
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@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@horace said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@loki said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
And that’s another thing that was so wrong with Jan 6, everyone is aware what these so called “patriots” are capable of. Storming their own highest symbol of democracy.
Don't be so melodramatic. The doors were unlocked and they were a mob in a partying mood.
I get that. But I can’t explain it away to myself, so you have to ask yourself if the people who really decide elections….that 5 to 10% that can go either way, buy your narrative or not.
I know it was a huge own-goal, and it will be mined for rhetoric by the left (i.e. the media) for the foreseeable future. TDS sufferers absolutely love that it happened.
Since the right doesn't have effective media outlets nor cultural indoctrination through all of pop culture and public education, we hear nothing about the Floyd riots, or CHAZ, or the constant threat of more of same that our society lives with, if we don't toe the line come verdict or election times.
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@horace said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
Since the right doesn't have effective media outlets
I know this is a tired old thing to point out, but you've got Fox News, which is an absolutely massive Murdoch-owned conservative mass-media cable TV outlet.
Jolly's been pointing out how it's much more popular than CNN and MSNBC for years.
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@doctor-phibes said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@horace said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
Since the right doesn't have effective media outlets
I know this is a tired old thing to point out, but you've got Fox News, which is an absolutely massive Murdoch-owned conservative mass-media cable TV outlet.
Jolly's been pointing out how it's much more popular than CNN and MSNBC for years.
One vs several, it is not surprising it is leading, but that is a case of a majority minority.
And when it comes to cultural indoctrination by other means (education and entertainment), the right is not even in the discussion.
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@horace said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@doctor-phibes said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@horace said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
Since the right doesn't have effective media outlets
I know this is a tired old thing to point out, but you've got Fox News, which is an absolutely massive Murdoch-owned conservative mass-media cable TV outlet.
Jolly's been pointing out how it's much more popular than CNN and MSNBC for years.
One vs several, it is not surprising it is leading, but that is a case of a majority minority.
And when it comes to cultural indoctrination by other means (education and entertainment), the right is not even in the discussion.
There are plenty of right wing outlets, but as far as I can tell they all pretty much preach to the choir. Normal people don't go there. At least I sure as hell don't, and I'm way fucking normal.
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@jolly said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
He was railroaded and crucified for nothing.
Pardon me if I cut him some slack...
Why? He embarrassed the Vice President and was accordingly thrown under the bus. Besides, he has demonstrated on more than one occasion since his pardon that he is in fact, a kook.
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@doctor-phibes said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@horace said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
Since the right doesn't have effective media outlets
I know this is a tired old thing to point out, but you've got Fox News, which is an absolutely massive Murdoch-owned conservative mass-media cable TV outlet.
Jolly's been pointing out how it's much more popular than CNN and MSNBC for years.
And it is. But it can't beat all of cable AND NBC, CBS, ABC television news AND NBC, CBS and ABC radio, AND the NYT, WaPo and a slew of other repeating megaphones.
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@jon-nyc said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
@horace said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:
The doors were unlocked and they were a mob in a partying mood.
IIRC a chick ate lead for being on the front end of a mob breaking down a door.
Yes she was a particularly crazy individual in the mob, and she paid the price.