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Paul says "No".

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  • George KG George K

    Science:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

    Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

    Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.

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    @george-k said in Paul says "No".:

    Science:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

    Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

    Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.

    Well, imagine that.

    Dr. Paul was right...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      @george-k said in Paul says "No".:

      Science:

      https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

      Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

      Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.

      Well, imagine that.

      Dr. Paul was right...

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      @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

      Dr. Paul was right...

      ...again.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Let’s see what the Delta variant does.

        Pronouncements like this since the pandemic started have axiomatically been wrong.

        When you spit up in the air…

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        • George KG George K

          @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

          Dr. Paul was right...

          ...again.

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          @george-k said in Paul says "No".:

          @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

          Dr. Paul was right...

          ...again.

          He was correct. As a leader, I'm not at all sure he's right.

          I was only joking

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            @loki said in Paul says "No".:

            Let’s see what the Delta variant does.

            Indeed. There's talk about Britain not opening up so quickly. I know this is much more transmissible, and as @bachophile pointed out, increased transmissibility is worse than increased mortality. However, how much more dangerous is this variant?

            In the UK, cases have bumped up a bit, but it looks like mortality hasn't - yet.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              @loki said in Paul says "No".:

              Let’s see what the Delta variant does.

              Indeed. There's talk about Britain not opening up so quickly. I know this is much more transmissible, and as @bachophile pointed out, increased transmissibility is worse than increased mortality. However, how much more dangerous is this variant?

              In the UK, cases have bumped up a bit, but it looks like mortality hasn't - yet.

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              @george-k said in Paul says "No".:

              @loki said in Paul says "No".:

              Let’s see what the Delta variant does.

              Indeed. There's talk about Britain not opening up so quickly. I know this is much more transmissible, and as @bachophile pointed out, increased transmissibility is worse than increased mortality. However, how much more dangerous is this variant?

              In the UK, cases have bumped up a bit, but it looks like mortality hasn't - yet.

              More lethal suggests this article which points to data from certain regions.

              https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/06/08/covid-delta-variant/

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                I wonder how many people who should get vaccinated will be dissuaded from doing so because Rand Paul came out and said he wouldn't. I wonder if anybody will think 'maybe he knows something....'

                I was only joking

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                  I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                  Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                    Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

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                    @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

                    I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                    Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

                    He's medically correct, but he's providing rather poor leadership. The question is, why is he doing this?

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

                      I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                      Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

                      He's medically correct, but he's providing rather poor leadership. The question is, why is he doing this?

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                      @doctor-phibes said in Paul says "No".:

                      @jolly said in Paul says "No".:

                      I think Dr. Paul is medically correct. If you've had COVID, you have natural antibodies.

                      Now, if you want to make an argument for antibodies against the original strain vs. one of the new variants, I think that's worth studying.

                      He's medically correct, but he's providing rather poor leadership. The question is, why is he doing this?

                      Maybe he isn't a big liar.

                      The big liars don't care what they say.

                      They just toe the line.

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