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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?

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    #31

    @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

    Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?

    Pfizer has filed the paperwork.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • RainmanR Rainman

      Hey Jolly, I think this kind of question is likely more in your wheelhouse:

      How is a variant of Covid determined or found? You (generic) get the test, it goes through whatever process, and the result comes back positive. But where along this path is it determined that your Covid is a mutated strain and not the original? Is there someone in each lab that, I dunno, looks at some samples under a microscope and sees something different?

      And it's driving me crazy: is it HIPPA, HIIPA, or HIPA.
      I could look it up, but there are health care professionals in the building, so I know a quick answer could be had, to help us all. Or, Ax can tell, betcha.

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      @rainman said in HIIPA?:

      Hey Jolly, I think this kind of question is likely more in your wheelhouse:

      How is a variant of Covid determined or found? You (generic) get the test, it goes through whatever process, and the result comes back positive. But where along this path is it determined that your Covid is a mutated strain and not the original? Is there someone in each lab that, I dunno, looks at some samples under a microscope and sees something different?

      And it's driving me crazy: is it HIPPA, HIIPA, or HIPA.
      I could look it up, but there are health care professionals in the building, so I know a quick answer could be had, to help us all. Or, Ax can tell, betcha.

      Two common tests - PCR and LFT (lateral flow technology). In PCR they're looking at a fairly large portion of the viral rna and different strains of the same virus should be able to be picked up. PCR probably doesn't even discriminate between SARS - Cov (classic SARS) and SARS - CoV-2 (COVID-19), since much of the genome is similar.

      Lots of LFT stuff on the market. I'm using the BD Veritor version today. More than you'll ever want to know:

      https://bdveritor.bd.com/content/dam/bdveritor/pdfs/BD-Veritor-IFU.pdf

      Yes, LFT can miss some variants, but it's easy and fast.

      As for the new strains, CDC and other agencies run the entire genome on select and random patients, to check for strain variants.

      More about HIPAA than you want to know:

      https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/index.html

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        What is the line for reasonable risk?

        Currently we are seeing 30,000 positive tests per day for 350,000,000 population. That is .000875% of the population if each positive test represents 1 new case (my understanding is that it doesn’t). At the same time, we are vaccinating almost 2,000,000 per day.

        The Brad

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

          Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?

          Pfizer has filed the paperwork.

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          Loki
          wrote on last edited by Loki
          #34

          @jolly said in HIIPA?:

          @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

          Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?

          Pfizer has filed the paperwork.

          With about 1.5 billion doses administered that’s pretty funny.

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          • AxtremusA Away
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            Axtremus
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            #35

            @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

            Currently we are seeing 30,000 positive tests per day for 350,000,000 population. That is .000875% of the population if each positive test represents 1 new case

            COVID-19 is not a "one day" problem, and you do not test all 350M people in one day anyway. It may be ".000875%" for one day, but what's the percentage for 10 days, 100 days, 400 days? What's the percentage over one person's lifetime? For those who cannot be vaccinated (due to allergies of other medical conditions, say), it's the probability of contraction over his lifetime that matters.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

              Currently we are seeing 30,000 positive tests per day for 350,000,000 population. That is .000875% of the population if each positive test represents 1 new case

              COVID-19 is not a "one day" problem, and you do not test all 350M people in one day anyway. It may be ".000875%" for one day, but what's the percentage for 10 days, 100 days, 400 days? What's the percentage over one person's lifetime? For those who cannot be vaccinated (due to allergies of other medical conditions, say), it's the probability of contraction over his lifetime that matters.

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              LuFins Dad
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              @axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #37

                @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

                @axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)

                No, it doesn't, because once you win the lottery you're just as likely to win it again as everybody else.

                (Insert pedantic snort/laughing-through-nose sound here)

                I was only joking

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                • HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
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                  #38

                  If I get COVID I hope I don’t share it with anybody else.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

                    @axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)

                    No, it doesn't, because once you win the lottery you're just as likely to win it again as everybody else.

                    (Insert pedantic snort/laughing-through-nose sound here)

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                    LuFins Dad
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                    @doctor-phibes said in HIIPA?:

                    @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

                    @axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)

                    No, it doesn't, because once you win the lottery you're just as likely to win it again as everybody else.

                    (Insert pedantic snort/laughing-through-nose sound here)

                    You’re right! All the people that have already had it helps reduce the spread!

                    The Brad

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                    • L Loki

                      @jolly said in HIIPA?:

                      @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

                      Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?

                      Pfizer has filed the paperwork.

                      With about 1.5 billion doses administered that’s pretty funny.

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                      @loki said in HIIPA?:

                      @jolly said in HIIPA?:

                      @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

                      Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?

                      Pfizer has filed the paperwork.

                      With about 1.5 billion doses administered that’s pretty funny.

                      Kept telling y'all that Trump moved mountains within the FDA to gain any sort of approval at all.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @loki said in HIIPA?:

                        @jolly said in HIIPA?:

                        @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

                        Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?

                        Pfizer has filed the paperwork.

                        With about 1.5 billion doses administered that’s pretty funny.

                        Kept telling y'all that Trump moved mountains within the FDA to gain any sort of approval at all.

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                        Loki
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                        #41

                        @jolly said in HIIPA?:

                        @loki said in HIIPA?:

                        @jolly said in HIIPA?:

                        @lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:

                        Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?

                        Pfizer has filed the paperwork.

                        With about 1.5 billion doses administered that’s pretty funny.

                        Kept telling y'all that Trump moved mountains within the FDA to gain any sort of approval at all.

                        Agreed. And operation warp speed will go down in history as greater than the moon landing.

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                        • KincaidK Offline
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                          Kincaid
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                          #42

                          It's HIPAA, not HIIPA or HIPPA.

                          (Oh, I see Loki already confirmed this). Carry on.

                          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
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                            Rainman
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                            #43

                            Well, OK.
                            But is it HIPPOO, HIPOO, HIIPO, or. . . HIPPA HIPPO?
                            Hippa skippa mippa dippa fippa zippa.

                            It all sounds right to me.

                            HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                            • RainmanR Rainman

                              Well, OK.
                              But is it HIPPOO, HIPOO, HIIPO, or. . . HIPPA HIPPO?
                              Hippa skippa mippa dippa fippa zippa.

                              It all sounds right to me.

                              HoraceH Online
                              HoraceH Online
                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #44

                              @rainman said in HIIPA?:

                              Well, OK.
                              But is it HIPPOO, HIPOO, HIIPO, or. . . HIPPA HIPPO?
                              Hippa skippa mippa dippa fippa zippa.

                              It all sounds right to me.

                              You're hippo.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • RainmanR Offline
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                                Rainman
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                                I'm yahoooooo HIPOOOOOOOO!
                                alltogethernow:
                                "Fat's the way, uh-huh uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh-uh-huh
                                fat's the way, uh-huh uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh-uh-huh"

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                                • KincaidK Kincaid

                                  It's HIPAA, not HIIPA or HIPPA.

                                  (Oh, I see Loki already confirmed this). Carry on.

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                                  George K
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                                  #46

                                  @kincaid said in HIIPA?:

                                  It's HIPAA, not HIIPA or HIPPA.

                                  (Oh, I see Loki already confirmed this). Carry on.

                                  Fixed...(duh).

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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