HIPAA
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@jolly, “breakthrough infection” is fine as long as it doesn’t get people killed, hospitalized, or leave people with severe long-term health issues. And the vaccines have so far been shown to be very effective at preventing death, hospitalization, and even symptoms. Even then, “breakthrough infection” among the vaccinated against COVID-19 is down in the 0.01% range. That’s not the sort of order of magnitude that would stand in the way or herd immunity, it’s something like three orders of magnitude away from that.
@jolly, “breakthrough infection” is fine as long as it doesn’t get people killed, hospitalized, or leave people with severe long-term health issues. And the vaccines have so far been shown to be very effective at preventing death, hospitalization, and even symptoms. Even then, “breakthrough infection” among the vaccinated against COVID-19 is down in the 0.01% range. That’s not the sort of order of magnitude that would stand in the way or herd immunity, it’s something like three orders of magnitude away from that.
Right now, getting exposed to COVID in the US is in the .0085% range.
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Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?
The Brad
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Hey Jolly, I think this kind of question is likely more in your wheelhouse:
How is a variant of Covid determined or found? You (generic) get the test, it goes through whatever process, and the result comes back positive. But where along this path is it determined that your Covid is a mutated strain and not the original? Is there someone in each lab that, I dunno, looks at some samples under a microscope and sees something different?
And it's driving me crazy: is it HIPPA, HIIPA, or HIPA.
I could look it up, but there are health care professionals in the building, so I know a quick answer could be had, to help us all. Or, Ax can tell, betcha. -
Hey Jolly, I think this kind of question is likely more in your wheelhouse:
How is a variant of Covid determined or found? You (generic) get the test, it goes through whatever process, and the result comes back positive. But where along this path is it determined that your Covid is a mutated strain and not the original? Is there someone in each lab that, I dunno, looks at some samples under a microscope and sees something different?
And it's driving me crazy: is it HIPPA, HIIPA, or HIPA.
I could look it up, but there are health care professionals in the building, so I know a quick answer could be had, to help us all. Or, Ax can tell, betcha. -
Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?
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Hey Jolly, I think this kind of question is likely more in your wheelhouse:
How is a variant of Covid determined or found? You (generic) get the test, it goes through whatever process, and the result comes back positive. But where along this path is it determined that your Covid is a mutated strain and not the original? Is there someone in each lab that, I dunno, looks at some samples under a microscope and sees something different?
And it's driving me crazy: is it HIPPA, HIIPA, or HIPA.
I could look it up, but there are health care professionals in the building, so I know a quick answer could be had, to help us all. Or, Ax can tell, betcha.Hey Jolly, I think this kind of question is likely more in your wheelhouse:
How is a variant of Covid determined or found? You (generic) get the test, it goes through whatever process, and the result comes back positive. But where along this path is it determined that your Covid is a mutated strain and not the original? Is there someone in each lab that, I dunno, looks at some samples under a microscope and sees something different?
And it's driving me crazy: is it HIPPA, HIIPA, or HIPA.
I could look it up, but there are health care professionals in the building, so I know a quick answer could be had, to help us all. Or, Ax can tell, betcha.Two common tests - PCR and LFT (lateral flow technology). In PCR they're looking at a fairly large portion of the viral rna and different strains of the same virus should be able to be picked up. PCR probably doesn't even discriminate between SARS - Cov (classic SARS) and SARS - CoV-2 (COVID-19), since much of the genome is similar.
Lots of LFT stuff on the market. I'm using the BD Veritor version today. More than you'll ever want to know:
https://bdveritor.bd.com/content/dam/bdveritor/pdfs/BD-Veritor-IFU.pdf
Yes, LFT can miss some variants, but it's easy and fast.
As for the new strains, CDC and other agencies run the entire genome on select and random patients, to check for strain variants.
More about HIPAA than you want to know:
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What is the line for reasonable risk?
Currently we are seeing 30,000 positive tests per day for 350,000,000 population. That is .000875% of the population if each positive test represents 1 new case (my understanding is that it doesn’t). At the same time, we are vaccinating almost 2,000,000 per day.
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@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?
Pfizer has filed the paperwork.
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@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
Currently we are seeing 30,000 positive tests per day for 350,000,000 population. That is .000875% of the population if each positive test represents 1 new case
COVID-19 is not a "one day" problem, and you do not test all 350M people in one day anyway. It may be ".000875%" for one day, but what's the percentage for 10 days, 100 days, 400 days? What's the percentage over one person's lifetime? For those who cannot be vaccinated (due to allergies of other medical conditions, say), it's the probability of contraction over his lifetime that matters.
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@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
Currently we are seeing 30,000 positive tests per day for 350,000,000 population. That is .000875% of the population if each positive test represents 1 new case
COVID-19 is not a "one day" problem, and you do not test all 350M people in one day anyway. It may be ".000875%" for one day, but what's the percentage for 10 days, 100 days, 400 days? What's the percentage over one person's lifetime? For those who cannot be vaccinated (due to allergies of other medical conditions, say), it's the probability of contraction over his lifetime that matters.
@axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)
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@axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)
@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
@axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)
No, it doesn't, because once you win the lottery you're just as likely to win it again as everybody else.
(Insert pedantic snort/laughing-through-nose sound here)
I was only joking
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@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
@axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)
No, it doesn't, because once you win the lottery you're just as likely to win it again as everybody else.
(Insert pedantic snort/laughing-through-nose sound here)
@doctor-phibes said in HIIPA?:
@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
@axtremus The same lottery principle Dr. Phibes pointed out applies. (Insert evil maniacal laugh here!)
No, it doesn't, because once you win the lottery you're just as likely to win it again as everybody else.
(Insert pedantic snort/laughing-through-nose sound here)
You’re right! All the people that have already had it helps reduce the spread!
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@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?
Pfizer has filed the paperwork.
With about 1.5 billion doses administered that’s pretty funny.
@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?
Pfizer has filed the paperwork.
With about 1.5 billion doses administered that’s pretty funny.
Kept telling y'all that Trump moved mountains within the FDA to gain any sort of approval at all.
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@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?
Pfizer has filed the paperwork.
With about 1.5 billion doses administered that’s pretty funny.
Kept telling y'all that Trump moved mountains within the FDA to gain any sort of approval at all.
@lufins-dad said in HIIPA?:
Have any of the vaccines been fully approved yet? Or are they all on the emergency approval?
Pfizer has filed the paperwork.
With about 1.5 billion doses administered that’s pretty funny.
Kept telling y'all that Trump moved mountains within the FDA to gain any sort of approval at all.
Agreed. And operation warp speed will go down in history as greater than the moon landing.
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Well, OK.
But is it HIPPOO, HIPOO, HIIPO, or. . . HIPPA HIPPO?
Hippa skippa mippa dippa fippa zippa.It all sounds right to me.
