Where's Joe?
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If Bush/Cheney didn't play good cop/bad cop with any world leaders, I'm not a proper doctor.
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I seem to recall, Dick Cheney taking over and managing the Republic of Georgia file when that nutcase Saakashvili decided he wanted join NATO and provoke armed conflict with Moscow. Pushed Bush and Sect'y of State aside and ran his own show there until all came tumbling down. Rather badly if recall correctly.
Elbows up!
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I seem to recall, Dick Cheney taking over and managing the Republic of Georgia file when that nutcase Saakashvili decided he wanted join NATO and provoke armed conflict with Moscow. Pushed Bush and Sect'y of State aside and ran his own show there until all came tumbling down. Rather badly if recall correctly.
@renauda said in Where's Joe?:
Dick Cheney taking over
I have little doubt that Cheney excerted a LOT of influence over foreign policy with Bush 43's administration.
I just think it was mostly behind the scenes, despite rumors.
This strikes me as a bit different, with the Vice President (who won zero primaries, I might add) directly interacting with foreign leaders.
Did Cheney, Biden, or other VEEPs do that?
I don't know.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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I seem to recall, Dick Cheney taking over and managing the Republic of Georgia file when that nutcase Saakashvili decided he wanted join NATO and provoke armed conflict with Moscow. Pushed Bush and Sect'y of State aside and ran his own show there until all came tumbling down. Rather badly if recall correctly.
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Was Vice President Pence more involved as a vice president compared to history or less so?
Just curious what you guys think.
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Was Vice President Pence more involved as a vice president compared to history or less so?
Just curious what you guys think.
@taiwan_girl said in Where's Joe?:
Was Vice President Pence more involved as a vice president compared to history or less so?
Just curious what you guys think.
Obama went out of his way not to even be in the same room as Joe.
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You guys are essentially complaining because Darth Vader is doing stuff rather than Palpatine. Or possibly Jar Jar Binks in the case of Biden and Bush II.
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@renauda said in Where's Joe?:
Dick Cheney taking over
I have little doubt that Cheney excerted a LOT of influence over foreign policy with Bush 43's administration.
I just think it was mostly behind the scenes, despite rumors.
This strikes me as a bit different, with the Vice President (who won zero primaries, I might add) directly interacting with foreign leaders.
Did Cheney, Biden, or other VEEPs do that?
I don't know.
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I think it seems like the VP is doing more because we have a senile president who does less.
@copper said in Where's Joe?:
I think it seems like the VP is doing more because we have a senile president who does less.
Everytime a GOP-leaning poster questions why VP Harris does something instead of President Biden doing it himself, it always come down to do this: accusing Biden of suffering from mental decline to the point of being unable to do the job of a President.
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Didn't Dan Quayle have some pretty detailed discussions with the Bolivians?
Or maybe that was Mike Tyson.
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@copper said in Where's Joe?:
I think it seems like the VP is doing more because we have a senile president who does less.
Everytime a GOP-leaning poster questions why VP Harris does something instead of President Biden doing it himself, it always come down to do this: accusing Biden of suffering from mental decline to the point of being unable to do the job of a President.
@axtremus said in Where's Joe?:
@copper said in Where's Joe?:
I think it seems like the VP is doing more because we have a senile president who does less.
Everytime a GOP-leaning poster questions why VP Harris does something instead of President Biden doing it himself, it always come down to do this: accusing Biden of suffering from mental decline to the point of being unable to do the job of a President.
Actually, Harris had the border.
I'm sure she'll be down there just any time, now. Soon, maybe...
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@copper said in Where's Joe?:
I think it seems like the VP is doing more because we have a senile president who does less.
Everytime a GOP-leaning poster questions why VP Harris does something instead of President Biden doing it himself, it always come down to do this: accusing Biden of suffering from mental decline to the point of being unable to do the job of a President.
@axtremus said in Where's Joe?:
@copper said in Where's Joe?:
I think it seems like the VP is doing more because we have a senile president who does less.
Everytime a GOP-leaning poster questions why VP Harris does something instead of President Biden doing it himself, it always come down to do this: accusing Biden of suffering from mental decline to the point of being unable to do the job of a President.
He's not suffering, he is living it up in the whitehouse.
When the dementia allows.
