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Havana Syndrome

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #5

    It's past time to impose some huge costs on that foul regime.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #6

      Yep.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
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        #7

        Will take a lot more evidence for me to buy that Russia is the cause of this:

        https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/health-and-nutrition/havana-syndrome-or-case-eliminating-implausible

        Elbows up!

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #8

          Not saying that this is what it is, but the tech is there:

          Link to video

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Not saying that this is what it is, but the tech is there:

            Link to video

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            #9

            @george-k said in Havana Syndrome:

            Not saying that this is what it is, but the tech is there:

            I think that kind of RF technology is also used by plastic surgeons to do facelift (radiofrequency skin tightening) kind of work.

            I had similar treatment (Photodynamic therapy "blue light") for pre-cancerous actinic keratoses. This feels like your face is going to melt off, it feels really hot. The first time I was treated with it, it was painful.

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              #10

              Researchers with the National Institutes of Health published a pair of studies on Monday that found few clinical differences between patients with a mysterious ailment known as “Havana syndrome” and healthy comparison groups.

              In one study, NIH researchers took a closer look at the brains of people who were believed to have Havana syndrome and found no consistent evidence of brain injury and no significant differences between that group and a healthy comparison group.

              In the second study, scientists ran a battery of tests on 86 US government staff and family members who reported Havana syndrome, comparing them with 30 people who had similar jobs but had no such symptoms, and found that by most clinical and biomarker measures, the two groups were the same.

              https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2816532?guestAccessKey=585c4d36-d78f-4f5c-90ec-06daf860fb3a&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=031824

              https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2816533?guestAccessKey=35666cf7-62e5-46ec-83c9-f041972ebb03&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=031824

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                Researchers with the National Institutes of Health published a pair of studies on Monday that found few clinical differences between patients with a mysterious ailment known as “Havana syndrome” and healthy comparison groups.

                In one study, NIH researchers took a closer look at the brains of people who were believed to have Havana syndrome and found no consistent evidence of brain injury and no significant differences between that group and a healthy comparison group.

                In the second study, scientists ran a battery of tests on 86 US government staff and family members who reported Havana syndrome, comparing them with 30 people who had similar jobs but had no such symptoms, and found that by most clinical and biomarker measures, the two groups were the same.

                https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2816532?guestAccessKey=585c4d36-d78f-4f5c-90ec-06daf860fb3a&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=031824

                https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2816533?guestAccessKey=35666cf7-62e5-46ec-83c9-f041972ebb03&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=031824

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                @taiwan_girl said in Havana Syndrome:

                Researchers with the National Institutes of Health published a pair of studies on Monday that found few clinical differences between patients with a mysterious ailment known as “Havana syndrome” and healthy comparison groups.

                In one study, NIH researchers took a closer look at the brains of people who were believed to have Havana syndrome and found no consistent evidence of brain injury and no significant differences between that group and a healthy comparison group.

                In the second study, scientists ran a battery of tests on 86 US government staff and family members who reported Havana syndrome, comparing them with 30 people who had similar jobs but had no such symptoms, and found that by most clinical and biomarker measures, the two groups were the same.

                https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2816532?guestAccessKey=585c4d36-d78f-4f5c-90ec-06daf860fb3a&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=031824

                https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2816533?guestAccessKey=35666cf7-62e5-46ec-83c9-f041972ebb03&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=031824

                I guess it's possible that this is like those cops who pass out due to fentanyl exposure?

                I was only joking

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  My only criticism is that the first study looked at MRI anatomical changes in the subjects.

                  Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it's not there.

                  Same for the "biomarker" tests.

                  D2 still suffers from the residual of her COVID. Breathlessness, parosmia, etc. Chest X-ray, pulmonary functions, blood work all normal.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    My only criticism is that the first study looked at MRI anatomical changes in the subjects.

                    Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it's not there.

                    Same for the "biomarker" tests.

                    D2 still suffers from the residual of her COVID. Breathlessness, parosmia, etc. Chest X-ray, pulmonary functions, blood work all normal.

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                    @George-K said in Havana Syndrome:

                    D2 still suffers from the residual of her COVID. Breathlessness, parosmia, etc. Chest X-ray, pulmonary functions, blood work all normal.

                    How is her taste and smell? I remember you mentioning that it was quite bad for a long time.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #14

                      60 Minutes did a followup of the story.

                      Link to video

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        Surprised?

                        Nope.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          A longer, deeper, dive into the investigation

                          https://theins.ru/en/politics/270425?fbclid=IwAR1-zgaRCcqLVVdpvB_T7x6OhfjlmYYj19qk--yUS5Z_JPEbwSrFkBXVwNo_aem_AZQYf7CKFKxdJsl8DVO1IwTRB0AnJz_Gyc2BRcS1gVqyXzNJGen--RBvYS8LMQkT5eYN07YHr4TJ2dHejFEYgf5m

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            #17

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
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                              #18

                              Bomb Havana. But get all the cool old cars out first.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Bomb Havana. But get all the cool old cars out first.

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                                George K
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                                #19

                                @Mik said in Havana Syndrome:

                                Bomb Havana. But get all the cool old cars out first.

                                And the cigars.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
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                                  #20

                                  Meh. The Dominicans are just as good. Cubans are like Coors used to be east of the Rockies.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      As any detective would ask, what is the motive for covering up? It is not like Cuba is our strategic partner or anything like that.

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                                        George K
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                                        Who's running the country for the next ten days?

                                        This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          Who's running the country for the next ten days?

                                          This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          #24

                                          @George-K said in Havana Syndrome:

                                          This man is in charge of the nuclear force.

                                          That made me think. I would assume that there is some sort of "2 factor authentication" before anything could be done with our nuclear bombs, right?

                                          I dont think that the president could just say, "fire all the bombs at Russia" and it would be done?

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