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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    #41

    I realize that nothing is “black and white”. I understand that voters like Mik are out there.

    BUT, there is a reason that President Trump is no longer the president.

    Same as 2016, some % of people voted for President Trump because they didn’t like Secretary Clinton.

    There’s a certain percentage of people who voted AGAINST a candidate rather than FOR a candidate.

    President Trump created some pretty big divisions in the voters.. I just don’t see how having him as the continued head of the party is going to bring those people back.

    In other words, why would someone who did not vote for him in 2020 vote for him in 2024?

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      I realize that nothing is “black and white”. I understand that voters like Mik are out there.

      BUT, there is a reason that President Trump is no longer the president.

      Same as 2016, some % of people voted for President Trump because they didn’t like Secretary Clinton.

      There’s a certain percentage of people who voted AGAINST a candidate rather than FOR a candidate.

      President Trump created some pretty big divisions in the voters.. I just don’t see how having him as the continued head of the party is going to bring those people back.

      In other words, why would someone who did not vote for him in 2020 vote for him in 2024?

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      @taiwan_girl said in Cheney?:

      In other words, why would someone who did not vote for him in 2020 vote for him in 2024?

      There's a strong chance he'll get more physically attractive after having gotten a good rest for four years. Beyond that, if the economy tanks under Biden, the population will have good memories of the strong economy we had under him (partially due to corporate friendly tax policies) and, buried somewhere, the realization that COVID took him down more than anything.

      Presidents almost always win or lose by slim margins, but whomever wins seems to always cause people to draw sweeping generalizations about the whole country and its attitude. That's silly. A few people voted Obama then Trump, and that's why Trump won in 2016. A few people will have voted Biden, and will switch parties in 2024. It happens. But it doesn't indicate a sea change in political attitude of the whole country.

      Education is extremely important.

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        @taiwan_girl said in Cheney?:

        In other words, why would someone who did not vote for him in 2020 vote for him in 2024?

        There's a strong chance he'll get more physically attractive after having gotten a good rest for four years. Beyond that, if the economy tanks under Biden, the population will have good memories of the strong economy we had under him (partially due to corporate friendly tax policies) and, buried somewhere, the realization that COVID took him down more than anything.

        Presidents almost always win or lose by slim margins, but whomever wins seems to always cause people to draw sweeping generalizations about the whole country and its attitude. That's silly. A few people voted Obama then Trump, and that's why Trump won in 2016. A few people will have voted Biden, and will switch parties in 2024. It happens. But it doesn't indicate a sea change in political attitude of the whole country.

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        @horace I agree.

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          Liz Cheney is down 30 points

          The poll, which provides perhaps the starkest illustration yet of the political peril Cheney faces this year, shows Wyoming attorney Harriet Hageman garnering 56 percent of the vote to Cheney’s 26 percent in the GOP primary. A third Republican got 12 percent support, and just 6 percent are undecided.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            @jolly said in Cheney?:

            Right now, I'd rather have a man who holds a grudge in the Oval Office, ...

            You really ought to have much higher expectations for the occupants of the Oval Office.

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            • George KG George K

              Liz Cheney is down 30 points

              The poll, which provides perhaps the starkest illustration yet of the political peril Cheney faces this year, shows Wyoming attorney Harriet Hageman garnering 56 percent of the vote to Cheney’s 26 percent in the GOP primary. A third Republican got 12 percent support, and just 6 percent are undecided.

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              @George-K said in Cheney?:

              Liz Cheney is down 30 points

              The poll, which provides perhaps the starkest illustration yet of the political peril Cheney faces this year, shows Wyoming attorney Harriet Hageman garnering 56 percent of the vote to Cheney’s 26 percent in the GOP primary. A third Republican got 12 percent support, and just 6 percent are undecided.

              Wyoming. Has. Had. Enough.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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