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@taiwan_girl said in Cheney?:
I think I said something like there is a certain percent of population that will vote for a certain party regardless of who’s running
It's a far jump from there to think that the name of the party matters, but policy and messaging do not. Anybody with strong opinions about the policies and messaging of Republicans vs Democrats will naturally tend to vote for one party consistently, especially in national or statewide elections. Such voting decisions are not inherently less well considered than decisions from those who have no strong opinions about the relative value of the two parties, and find themselves switching back and forth based on their own value judgments.
Education is extremely important.
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@horace I somewhat disagree. I am guessing you can go back in history and find candidates from both sides who are so so far out of it. Yet, they will still get a fair number of votes. People will see that they are from a certain party, and don’t really care, or don’t understand what they really mean or stand for.
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@taiwan_girl said in Cheney?:
@horace I somewhat disagree. I am guessing you can go back in history and find candidates from both sides who are so so far out of it.
Like, an avowed communist running as a Republican and getting the Republican vote? Do you guess that that happens?
Yet, they will still get a fair number of votes. People will see that they are from a certain party, and don’t really care, or don’t understand what they really mean or stand for.
Party is a very strong indicator of the direction of policy and messaging, as compared to the other party. It begins to break down as elections get more local and specific to local issues, but it holds very well for statewide or national elections.
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I realize that nothing is “black and white”. I understand that voters like Mik are out there.
BUT, there is a reason that President Trump is no longer the president.
Same as 2016, some % of people voted for President Trump because they didn’t like Secretary Clinton.
There’s a certain percentage of people who voted AGAINST a candidate rather than FOR a candidate.
President Trump created some pretty big divisions in the voters.. I just don’t see how having him as the continued head of the party is going to bring those people back.
In other words, why would someone who did not vote for him in 2020 vote for him in 2024?
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@taiwan_girl said in Cheney?:
In other words, why would someone who did not vote for him in 2020 vote for him in 2024?
There's a strong chance he'll get more physically attractive after having gotten a good rest for four years. Beyond that, if the economy tanks under Biden, the population will have good memories of the strong economy we had under him (partially due to corporate friendly tax policies) and, buried somewhere, the realization that COVID took him down more than anything.
Presidents almost always win or lose by slim margins, but whomever wins seems to always cause people to draw sweeping generalizations about the whole country and its attitude. That's silly. A few people voted Obama then Trump, and that's why Trump won in 2016. A few people will have voted Biden, and will switch parties in 2024. It happens. But it doesn't indicate a sea change in political attitude of the whole country.
Education is extremely important.
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The poll, which provides perhaps the starkest illustration yet of the political peril Cheney faces this year, shows Wyoming attorney Harriet Hageman garnering 56 percent of the vote to Cheney’s 26 percent in the GOP primary. A third Republican got 12 percent support, and just 6 percent are undecided.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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The poll, which provides perhaps the starkest illustration yet of the political peril Cheney faces this year, shows Wyoming attorney Harriet Hageman garnering 56 percent of the vote to Cheney’s 26 percent in the GOP primary. A third Republican got 12 percent support, and just 6 percent are undecided.
Wyoming. Has. Had. Enough.
