"Nomadland"
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wrote on 26 Apr 2021, 18:26 last edited by
It's on HULU, if you have a subscription.
Frances McDormand plays...Frances McDormand.
"Best Picture?" Really? It had some interesting cinematography, but overall it felt like a disjointed docudrama about a woman's excursion into living on the road.
I gave up after an hour.
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It's on HULU, if you have a subscription.
Frances McDormand plays...Frances McDormand.
"Best Picture?" Really? It had some interesting cinematography, but overall it felt like a disjointed docudrama about a woman's excursion into living on the road.
I gave up after an hour.
wrote on 26 Apr 2021, 18:46 last edited byNo plot
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wrote on 26 Apr 2021, 18:48 last edited by
@loki said in "Nomadland":
No plot
Indeed. I felt that, after watching 15 minutes, I had seen all there was to see.
Oh, yeah @Mik ,
I'll see your Glenn Close twerking and raise you Frances McDormand floating naked in a river.
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wrote on 26 Apr 2021, 19:03 last edited by
Stick to the Oscars. In the Best Picture speech she got up there and did a wolf howl (which I assume she did in the movie).
As great as she was in the Fargo movie, she looks dour and no fun at all.
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wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 15:11 last edited by
Again, give Oscars to movies that people actually enjoy and want to see.
I don't care if it's a MCU movie...Robert Downey,Jr. probably deserved an Oscar for Ironman, etc.
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Again, give Oscars to movies that people actually enjoy and want to see.
I don't care if it's a MCU movie...Robert Downey,Jr. probably deserved an Oscar for Ironman, etc.
wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 15:19 last edited by@jolly said in "Nomadland":
I don't care if it's a MCU movie...Robert Downey,Jr. probably deserved an Oscar for Ironman, etc.
But there's already a prize for winning the popularity contest: Massive $$$.
There is room and justification for a prize that tries to identify particularly valuable and lasting film contributions to our cultural heritage. I'm not sure the Oscars are that kind of prize, but I for one think that it doesn't make so much sense to give prizes to popcorn movies that entertain you for 90 minutes and that's it. Prizes are for stuff that people will still want to watch in 50 years; movies that highlight something interesting about the human condition.
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@jolly said in "Nomadland":
I don't care if it's a MCU movie...Robert Downey,Jr. probably deserved an Oscar for Ironman, etc.
But there's already a prize for winning the popularity contest: Massive $$$.
There is room and justification for a prize that tries to identify particularly valuable and lasting film contributions to our cultural heritage. I'm not sure the Oscars are that kind of prize, but I for one think that it doesn't make so much sense to give prizes to popcorn movies that entertain you for 90 minutes and that's it. Prizes are for stuff that people will still want to watch in 50 years; movies that highlight something interesting about the human condition.
wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 18:45 last edited by@klaus said in "Nomadland":
@jolly said in "Nomadland":
I don't care if it's a MCU movie...Robert Downey,Jr. probably deserved an Oscar for Ironman, etc.
But there's already a prize for winning the popularity contest: Massive $$$.
There is room and justification for a prize that tries to identify particularly valuable and lasting film contributions to our cultural heritage. I'm not sure the Oscars are that kind of prize, but I for one think that it doesn't make so much sense to give prizes to popcorn movies that entertain you for 90 minutes and that's it. Prizes are for stuff that people will still want to watch in 50 years; movies that highlight something interesting about the human condition.
Today's popcorn movies are tomorrow's classics. Not all, but the well done ones will be watched 50 years from now.
Gone With The Wind may be the ultimate popcorn movie. Much of it now is indelibly chiseled into the American psyche.
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@klaus said in "Nomadland":
@jolly said in "Nomadland":
I don't care if it's a MCU movie...Robert Downey,Jr. probably deserved an Oscar for Ironman, etc.
But there's already a prize for winning the popularity contest: Massive $$$.
There is room and justification for a prize that tries to identify particularly valuable and lasting film contributions to our cultural heritage. I'm not sure the Oscars are that kind of prize, but I for one think that it doesn't make so much sense to give prizes to popcorn movies that entertain you for 90 minutes and that's it. Prizes are for stuff that people will still want to watch in 50 years; movies that highlight something interesting about the human condition.
Today's popcorn movies are tomorrow's classics. Not all, but the well done ones will be watched 50 years from now.
Gone With The Wind may be the ultimate popcorn movie. Much of it now is indelibly chiseled into the American psyche.
wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 19:00 last edited by Klaus@jolly said in "Nomadland":
Today's popcorn movies are tomorrow's classics. Not all, but the well done ones will be watched 50 years from now.
Gone With The Wind may be the ultimate popcorn movie. Much of it now is indelibly chiseled into the American psyche.So you think people will watch Ironman in 50 years? The special effects will look dated in 10 years, and all that remains if you subtract the VFX are a few semi-decent gags and a story that makes no sense.
I'm not at all saying that popular movies can't be good or worthy of prizes. Avatar, Titanic, even Star Wars - these are all movies that will still have relevance 30 years from now. But to have lasting value, movies need to relate to the spirit of humanity. I really don't see that with any of modern "superhero" movies. And I'm not at all against them. I can enjoy these movies. But they don't make me think about anything.
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wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 19:07 last edited by
I watched a Thor and an Avengers movie this last week. Both were well done and quite entertaining and I generally don't care for the MCU stuff.
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wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 19:11 last edited by
I love the Marvel movies, but they're not going to last. Look at those old Batman movies with Michael Keaton, or the Christopher Reeve Superman that was huge at the time. They're pretty much forgotten.
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wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 19:37 last edited by
Agreed. But The Godfather trilogy goes on and on.
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wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 20:09 last edited by
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wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 20:14 last edited by
I have to believe that celebrities think that Oscars have lost their value given all the other ways to connect to viewers.
I think they could have kept it alive through some re-imagining but the need to be woke overrode that option.
Only time will tell if there are regrets but I think right now the potential losers from a bust event don’t care.
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@jolly said in "Nomadland":
Today's popcorn movies are tomorrow's classics. Not all, but the well done ones will be watched 50 years from now.
Gone With The Wind may be the ultimate popcorn movie. Much of it now is indelibly chiseled into the American psyche.So you think people will watch Ironman in 50 years? The special effects will look dated in 10 years, and all that remains if you subtract the VFX are a few semi-decent gags and a story that makes no sense.
I'm not at all saying that popular movies can't be good or worthy of prizes. Avatar, Titanic, even Star Wars - these are all movies that will still have relevance 30 years from now. But to have lasting value, movies need to relate to the spirit of humanity. I really don't see that with any of modern "superhero" movies. And I'm not at all against them. I can enjoy these movies. But they don't make me think about anything.
wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 21:44 last edited by@klaus said in "Nomadland":
@jolly said in "Nomadland":
Today's popcorn movies are tomorrow's classics. Not all, but the well done ones will be watched 50 years from now.
Gone With The Wind may be the ultimate popcorn movie. Much of it now is indelibly chiseled into the American psyche.So you think people will watch Ironman in 50 years? The special effects will look dated in 10 years, and all that remains if you subtract the VFX are a few semi-decent gags and a story that makes no sense.
For lots of awesome gags, check out Deadpool 1 and 2.