"Nomadland"
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@jolly said in "Nomadland":
I don't care if it's a MCU movie...Robert Downey,Jr. probably deserved an Oscar for Ironman, etc.
But there's already a prize for winning the popularity contest: Massive $$$.
There is room and justification for a prize that tries to identify particularly valuable and lasting film contributions to our cultural heritage. I'm not sure the Oscars are that kind of prize, but I for one think that it doesn't make so much sense to give prizes to popcorn movies that entertain you for 90 minutes and that's it. Prizes are for stuff that people will still want to watch in 50 years; movies that highlight something interesting about the human condition.
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@klaus said in "Nomadland":
@jolly said in "Nomadland":
I don't care if it's a MCU movie...Robert Downey,Jr. probably deserved an Oscar for Ironman, etc.
But there's already a prize for winning the popularity contest: Massive $$$.
There is room and justification for a prize that tries to identify particularly valuable and lasting film contributions to our cultural heritage. I'm not sure the Oscars are that kind of prize, but I for one think that it doesn't make so much sense to give prizes to popcorn movies that entertain you for 90 minutes and that's it. Prizes are for stuff that people will still want to watch in 50 years; movies that highlight something interesting about the human condition.
Today's popcorn movies are tomorrow's classics. Not all, but the well done ones will be watched 50 years from now.
Gone With The Wind may be the ultimate popcorn movie. Much of it now is indelibly chiseled into the American psyche.
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@jolly said in "Nomadland":
Today's popcorn movies are tomorrow's classics. Not all, but the well done ones will be watched 50 years from now.
Gone With The Wind may be the ultimate popcorn movie. Much of it now is indelibly chiseled into the American psyche.So you think people will watch Ironman in 50 years? The special effects will look dated in 10 years, and all that remains if you subtract the VFX are a few semi-decent gags and a story that makes no sense.
I'm not at all saying that popular movies can't be good or worthy of prizes. Avatar, Titanic, even Star Wars - these are all movies that will still have relevance 30 years from now. But to have lasting value, movies need to relate to the spirit of humanity. I really don't see that with any of modern "superhero" movies. And I'm not at all against them. I can enjoy these movies. But they don't make me think about anything.
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I love the Marvel movies, but they're not going to last. Look at those old Batman movies with Michael Keaton, or the Christopher Reeve Superman that was huge at the time. They're pretty much forgotten.
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I have to believe that celebrities think that Oscars have lost their value given all the other ways to connect to viewers.
I think they could have kept it alive through some re-imagining but the need to be woke overrode that option.
Only time will tell if there are regrets but I think right now the potential losers from a bust event don’t care.
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@klaus said in "Nomadland":
@jolly said in "Nomadland":
Today's popcorn movies are tomorrow's classics. Not all, but the well done ones will be watched 50 years from now.
Gone With The Wind may be the ultimate popcorn movie. Much of it now is indelibly chiseled into the American psyche.So you think people will watch Ironman in 50 years? The special effects will look dated in 10 years, and all that remains if you subtract the VFX are a few semi-decent gags and a story that makes no sense.
For lots of awesome gags, check out Deadpool 1 and 2.