"Requesting permission to chase suspect."
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Police officers in Chicago may soon require permission from a supervisor before pursuing a suspect on foot, Mayor Lori Lightfoot said Tuesday.
Lightfoot promised to disclose details “soon” about a police policy change, Fox 32 Chicago reported.
“No one should die as a result of a foot chase,” the mayor said.
Police methods have faced new scrutiny recently following the release last week of video footage from the March 29 police shooting death of 13-year-old Adam Toledo. The case has sparked new debate on police use of deadly force.
City Alderman Brian Hopkins told FOX 32 that city police already need a superior’s permission to launch a vehicle chase for a suspect. A new policy on foot chases would simply make the same policy apply to all chases.
Hopkins acknowledged the most obvious criticism that such a policy would likely attract: that a suspect on foot could be long gone in the time it would take an officer to get the required approval.
“The point would be moot then,” Hopkins noted, according to FOX 32.
The alderman added that police are seeing more vehicles flee from officers because suspects know about the permission policy.
Lightfoot also acknowledged that requiring an OK was a less-than-perfect solution.
“I don’t want people out there who are dangerous to think, ‘Well, if I just run, then I’m safe. I can continue to wreak havoc,’” the mayor said. “We can’t live in that world, either.”
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I agree. No more chasing suspects that attempt to escape. At that point you have to assume that they are an immediate danger and threat. Shoot.
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The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
The Brad
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The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
All gang members?
Or just a specific type?
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The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
Ball'mer is enough
Erich winked.
He'd know!
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@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
I’m talking Murder. Click-Bang... I don’t count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3
The Brad
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
I’m talking Murder. Click-Bang... I don’t count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
Yeah, Chicago certainly holds the record in absolute number. Per capita, not so much.
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I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.
In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?
