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‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell

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    George K
    wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 11:58 last edited by
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    There's also a new "double mutation" of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that is more infectious.

    As @bachophile pointed out, easier transmissibility in a population is more deadly to the population than a more lethal mutation.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 13:47 last edited by
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      Cuomo probably has some vents he could spare...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        22 Apr 2021, 11:58

        There's also a new "double mutation" of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that is more infectious.

        As @bachophile pointed out, easier transmissibility in a population is more deadly to the population than a more lethal mutation.

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        wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 13:55 last edited by
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        @george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:

        There's also a new "double mutation" of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that is more infectious.

        Gonna get a lot more than that I suspect.

        Please love yourself.

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          George K
          wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 14:01 last edited by
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          How did a country that had endured a comparatively mild pandemic for 12 months suddenly turn into a raging inferno? There are two theories. One, a la Chile, is that India believed it had COVID licked after many months of few infections so it let down its guard and relaxed restrictions. Movie theaters opened at full capacity on February 1. The prime minister, Narendra Modi, began holding mass rallies again and didn’t bother wearing a mask. (Which sounds familiar.) Last month the health minister arrogantly declared that the country was in the “endgame of the COVID-19 pandemic.” An epidemiologist writes today that “The mass political, religious and sporting events, which are extensively covered by the Indian media, sent mixed messages about the seriousness of the pandemic” and that “there is an unfounded sense among a large number of Indians that exposure to pollution and microbes had endowed them with superior immunity.”

          The other factor in India’s outbreak is that they have a variant of their very own now. A “double-mutant,” in fact, so called because it has not one but two key mutations on the spike protein:

          Scientists aren’t sure yet whether it’s meaningfully more contagious than the common coronavirus but the strain’s growing prevalence is a clue that it is. Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:

          Every infected person is a laboratory for the virus to mutate into something more dangerous and India has more “laboratories” than any country on Earth except China. The virus is running millions of “experiments” there right now — each day. The fact that until recently the country had suffered only mild spikes in cases relative to western countries also should logically mean that there’s little natural immunity in the population to help slow down the current spread. How much worse it could get is anyone’s guess,

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            22 Apr 2021, 14:01

            How did a country that had endured a comparatively mild pandemic for 12 months suddenly turn into a raging inferno? There are two theories. One, a la Chile, is that India believed it had COVID licked after many months of few infections so it let down its guard and relaxed restrictions. Movie theaters opened at full capacity on February 1. The prime minister, Narendra Modi, began holding mass rallies again and didn’t bother wearing a mask. (Which sounds familiar.) Last month the health minister arrogantly declared that the country was in the “endgame of the COVID-19 pandemic.” An epidemiologist writes today that “The mass political, religious and sporting events, which are extensively covered by the Indian media, sent mixed messages about the seriousness of the pandemic” and that “there is an unfounded sense among a large number of Indians that exposure to pollution and microbes had endowed them with superior immunity.”

            The other factor in India’s outbreak is that they have a variant of their very own now. A “double-mutant,” in fact, so called because it has not one but two key mutations on the spike protein:

            Scientists aren’t sure yet whether it’s meaningfully more contagious than the common coronavirus but the strain’s growing prevalence is a clue that it is. Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:

            Every infected person is a laboratory for the virus to mutate into something more dangerous and India has more “laboratories” than any country on Earth except China. The virus is running millions of “experiments” there right now — each day. The fact that until recently the country had suffered only mild spikes in cases relative to western countries also should logically mean that there’s little natural immunity in the population to help slow down the current spread. How much worse it could get is anyone’s guess,

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            jodi
            wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 17:22 last edited by
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            @george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:

            How did a country that had endured a comparatively mild pandemic for 12 months suddenly turn into a raging inferno? There are two theories. One, a la Chile, is that India believed it had COVID licked after many months of few infections so it let down its guard and relaxed restrictions. Movie theaters opened at full capacity on February 1. The prime minister, Narendra Modi, began holding mass rallies again and didn’t bother wearing a mask. (Which sounds familiar.) Last month the health minister arrogantly declared that the country was in the “endgame of the COVID-19 pandemic.” An epidemiologist writes today that “The mass political, religious and sporting events, which are extensively covered by the Indian media, sent mixed messages about the seriousness of the pandemic” and that “there is an unfounded sense among a large number of Indians that exposure to pollution and microbes had endowed them with superior immunity.”

            The other factor in India’s outbreak is that they have a variant of their very own now. A “double-mutant,” in fact, so called because it has not one but two key mutations on the spike protein:

            Scientists aren’t sure yet whether it’s meaningfully more contagious than the common coronavirus but the strain’s growing prevalence is a clue that it is. Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:

            Every infected person is a laboratory for the virus to mutate into something more dangerous and India has more “laboratories” than any country on Earth except China. The virus is running millions of “experiments” there right now — each day. The fact that until recently the country had suffered only mild spikes in cases relative to western countries also should logically mean that there’s little natural immunity in the population to help slow down the current spread. How much worse it could get is anyone’s guess,

            @george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:

            How did a country that had endured a comparatively mild pandemic for 12 months suddenly turn into a raging inferno? There are two theories. One, a la Chile, is that India believed it had COVID licked after many months of few infections so it let down its guard and relaxed restrictions. Movie theaters opened at full capacity on February 1. The prime minister, Narendra Modi, began holding mass rallies again and didn’t bother wearing a mask. (Which sounds familiar.) Last month the health minister arrogantly declared that the country was in the “endgame of the COVID-19 pandemic.” An epidemiologist writes today that “The mass political, religious and sporting events, which are extensively covered by the Indian media, sent mixed messages about the seriousness of the pandemic” and that “there is an unfounded sense among a large number of Indians that exposure to pollution and microbes had endowed them with superior immunity.”

            The other factor in India’s outbreak is that they have a variant of their very own now. A “double-mutant,” in fact, so called because it has not one but two key mutations on the spike protein:

            Scientists aren’t sure yet whether it’s meaningfully more contagious than the common coronavirus but the strain’s growing prevalence is a clue that it is. Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:

            Every infected person is a laboratory for the virus to mutate into something more dangerous and India has more “laboratories” than any country on Earth except China. The virus is running millions of “experiments” there right now — each day. The fact that until recently the country had suffered only mild spikes in cases relative to western countries also should logically mean that there’s little natural immunity in the population to help slow down the current spread. How much worse it could get is anyone’s guess,

            Yikes.

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              Rainman
              wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 17:51 last edited by
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              @george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:

              Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:

              Key sentence
              Gulp.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 04:39 last edited by
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                Thank the ChiComs for inventing the Wuhan Virus...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  George K
                  wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 11:41 last edited by
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                  https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/india

                  Argentina, Turkey and Sweden have more per capita. In fact, the US is about the same as India.

                  I doubt the trajectory is as scary as India's.

                  Screen Shot 2021-04-23 at 6.38.57 AM.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • G George K
                    23 Apr 2021, 11:41

                    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/india

                    Argentina, Turkey and Sweden have more per capita. In fact, the US is about the same as India.

                    I doubt the trajectory is as scary as India's.

                    Screen Shot 2021-04-23 at 6.38.57 AM.png

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 17:42 last edited by
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                    @george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:

                    Argentina, Turkey and Sweden have more per capita. In fact, the US is about the same as India.
                    I doubt the trajectory is as scary as India's.

                    I also doubt that the testing regimes are comparable.

                    I was only joking

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                      George K
                      wrote on 25 Apr 2021, 21:37 last edited by
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                      Mass cremations:

                      Link to video

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 25 Apr 2021, 21:41 last edited by
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                        I saw that yesterday, I didn't want to post it, you get the feeling that this is closer to the beginning than to the end.

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 26 Apr 2021, 02:23 last edited by
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                          https://www.reuters.com/world/india/us-provide-vaccine-components-medical-supplies-india-2021-04-25/

                          The United States will immediately send raw materials for COVID-19 vaccines, medical equipment and protective gear to help India respond to a massive surge in coronavirus infections, U.S. President Joe Biden said on Sunday.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 26 Apr 2021, 03:17 last edited by
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                            Good.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:29 last edited by
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                              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-29/u-s-tells-citizens-to-leave-india-as-covid-19-swamps-hospitals

                              State Department tells US citizens to leave India.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:40 last edited by
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                                And should quarantine them for 14 days.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 15:00 last edited by
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                                  At least.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Loki
                                    wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 19:51 last edited by
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                                    It’s fascinating that we think there will be a gas shortage due to covid impact on available drivers but there seems to be no impact in India to our economy based on all the IT and call center work we outsource- and it’s a huge number.

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                                      jodi
                                      wrote on 30 Apr 2021, 00:31 last edited by jodi
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                                      I didn’t realize that the funeral pyres were how they cremated their dead normally. They are just having to do so many more of them, they’re running out of space to do it.

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                                        30 Apr 2021, 00:31

                                        I didn’t realize that the funeral pyres were how they cremated their dead normally. They are just having to do so many more of them, they’re running out of space to do it.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 30 Apr 2021, 00:36 last edited by
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                                        @jodi said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:

                                        I didn’t realize that the funeral pyres were they cremated their dead normally. They are just having to do so many more of them, they’re running out of space to do it.

                                        Takes a lot of wood, too.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          30 Apr 2021, 00:36

                                          @jodi said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:

                                          I didn’t realize that the funeral pyres were they cremated their dead normally. They are just having to do so many more of them, they’re running out of space to do it.

                                          Takes a lot of wood, too.

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                                          jodi
                                          wrote on 30 Apr 2021, 00:37 last edited by jodi
                                          #27

                                          @jolly
                                          Yes, hadn’t thought of that.

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