‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell
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Did you see the graph with the daily deaths? You have to wonder what the hell happened that one day in May last year when they jumped from 300 deaths per day to 2000, then back to 300 the next day and stayed in that general range.
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 11:44 last edited by@lufins-dad said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:
Did you see the graph with the daily deaths?
https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/8716/the-pandemic-will-be-more-deadly-this-year/5
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 11:46 last edited by
I think we're still very early in the "Things are going to hell in India" experience.
The uptick in India's deaths in the last week is a precursor to much much worse things to come, particularly when you look at the near-vertical rise of cases.
Gonna get real ugly in the next few weeks.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 11:50 last edited by
Still we don't know what the catalyst was.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 11:53 last edited by
I see the CDC has issued a travel advisory, while the UK has cut off all incoming from the nation. We should be doing the same for a while.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 11:55 last edited by Mik
Lockdowns eased too quickly
India was praised for its swift lockdowns last year but there has been criticism of the government for allowing restrictions to ease too quickly. Modi, who has resisted suggestions that nationwide measures should be reintroduced has attracted fire for holding rallies without proper social distancing. Hindu festivals have also been allowed to go ahead, most notably the massive Kumbh Mela gathering in Haridwar which has attracted as many as 25 million people since January, including about 4.6 million last week alone, with most people ignoring Covid-19 guidelines.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 11:58 last edited by
There's also a new "double mutation" of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that is more infectious.
As @bachophile pointed out, easier transmissibility in a population is more deadly to the population than a more lethal mutation.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 13:47 last edited by
Cuomo probably has some vents he could spare...
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There's also a new "double mutation" of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that is more infectious.
As @bachophile pointed out, easier transmissibility in a population is more deadly to the population than a more lethal mutation.
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 13:55 last edited by@george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:
There's also a new "double mutation" of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that is more infectious.
Gonna get a lot more than that I suspect.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 14:01 last edited by
How did a country that had endured a comparatively mild pandemic for 12 months suddenly turn into a raging inferno? There are two theories. One, a la Chile, is that India believed it had COVID licked after many months of few infections so it let down its guard and relaxed restrictions. Movie theaters opened at full capacity on February 1. The prime minister, Narendra Modi, began holding mass rallies again and didn’t bother wearing a mask. (Which sounds familiar.) Last month the health minister arrogantly declared that the country was in the “endgame of the COVID-19 pandemic.” An epidemiologist writes today that “The mass political, religious and sporting events, which are extensively covered by the Indian media, sent mixed messages about the seriousness of the pandemic” and that “there is an unfounded sense among a large number of Indians that exposure to pollution and microbes had endowed them with superior immunity.”
The other factor in India’s outbreak is that they have a variant of their very own now. A “double-mutant,” in fact, so called because it has not one but two key mutations on the spike protein:
Scientists aren’t sure yet whether it’s meaningfully more contagious than the common coronavirus but the strain’s growing prevalence is a clue that it is. Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:
Every infected person is a laboratory for the virus to mutate into something more dangerous and India has more “laboratories” than any country on Earth except China. The virus is running millions of “experiments” there right now — each day. The fact that until recently the country had suffered only mild spikes in cases relative to western countries also should logically mean that there’s little natural immunity in the population to help slow down the current spread. How much worse it could get is anyone’s guess,
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How did a country that had endured a comparatively mild pandemic for 12 months suddenly turn into a raging inferno? There are two theories. One, a la Chile, is that India believed it had COVID licked after many months of few infections so it let down its guard and relaxed restrictions. Movie theaters opened at full capacity on February 1. The prime minister, Narendra Modi, began holding mass rallies again and didn’t bother wearing a mask. (Which sounds familiar.) Last month the health minister arrogantly declared that the country was in the “endgame of the COVID-19 pandemic.” An epidemiologist writes today that “The mass political, religious and sporting events, which are extensively covered by the Indian media, sent mixed messages about the seriousness of the pandemic” and that “there is an unfounded sense among a large number of Indians that exposure to pollution and microbes had endowed them with superior immunity.”
The other factor in India’s outbreak is that they have a variant of their very own now. A “double-mutant,” in fact, so called because it has not one but two key mutations on the spike protein:
Scientists aren’t sure yet whether it’s meaningfully more contagious than the common coronavirus but the strain’s growing prevalence is a clue that it is. Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:
Every infected person is a laboratory for the virus to mutate into something more dangerous and India has more “laboratories” than any country on Earth except China. The virus is running millions of “experiments” there right now — each day. The fact that until recently the country had suffered only mild spikes in cases relative to western countries also should logically mean that there’s little natural immunity in the population to help slow down the current spread. How much worse it could get is anyone’s guess,
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 17:22 last edited by@george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:
How did a country that had endured a comparatively mild pandemic for 12 months suddenly turn into a raging inferno? There are two theories. One, a la Chile, is that India believed it had COVID licked after many months of few infections so it let down its guard and relaxed restrictions. Movie theaters opened at full capacity on February 1. The prime minister, Narendra Modi, began holding mass rallies again and didn’t bother wearing a mask. (Which sounds familiar.) Last month the health minister arrogantly declared that the country was in the “endgame of the COVID-19 pandemic.” An epidemiologist writes today that “The mass political, religious and sporting events, which are extensively covered by the Indian media, sent mixed messages about the seriousness of the pandemic” and that “there is an unfounded sense among a large number of Indians that exposure to pollution and microbes had endowed them with superior immunity.”
The other factor in India’s outbreak is that they have a variant of their very own now. A “double-mutant,” in fact, so called because it has not one but two key mutations on the spike protein:
Scientists aren’t sure yet whether it’s meaningfully more contagious than the common coronavirus but the strain’s growing prevalence is a clue that it is. Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:
Every infected person is a laboratory for the virus to mutate into something more dangerous and India has more “laboratories” than any country on Earth except China. The virus is running millions of “experiments” there right now — each day. The fact that until recently the country had suffered only mild spikes in cases relative to western countries also should logically mean that there’s little natural immunity in the population to help slow down the current spread. How much worse it could get is anyone’s guess,
@george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:
How did a country that had endured a comparatively mild pandemic for 12 months suddenly turn into a raging inferno? There are two theories. One, a la Chile, is that India believed it had COVID licked after many months of few infections so it let down its guard and relaxed restrictions. Movie theaters opened at full capacity on February 1. The prime minister, Narendra Modi, began holding mass rallies again and didn’t bother wearing a mask. (Which sounds familiar.) Last month the health minister arrogantly declared that the country was in the “endgame of the COVID-19 pandemic.” An epidemiologist writes today that “The mass political, religious and sporting events, which are extensively covered by the Indian media, sent mixed messages about the seriousness of the pandemic” and that “there is an unfounded sense among a large number of Indians that exposure to pollution and microbes had endowed them with superior immunity.”
The other factor in India’s outbreak is that they have a variant of their very own now. A “double-mutant,” in fact, so called because it has not one but two key mutations on the spike protein:
Scientists aren’t sure yet whether it’s meaningfully more contagious than the common coronavirus but the strain’s growing prevalence is a clue that it is. Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:
Every infected person is a laboratory for the virus to mutate into something more dangerous and India has more “laboratories” than any country on Earth except China. The virus is running millions of “experiments” there right now — each day. The fact that until recently the country had suffered only mild spikes in cases relative to western countries also should logically mean that there’s little natural immunity in the population to help slow down the current spread. How much worse it could get is anyone’s guess,
Yikes.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 17:51 last edited by
@george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:
Doctors are understandably worried that the variant could theoretically break through the immunity provided by vaccines:
Key sentence
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wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 04:39 last edited by
Thank the ChiComs for inventing the Wuhan Virus...
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wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 11:41 last edited by
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/india
Argentina, Turkey and Sweden have more per capita. In fact, the US is about the same as India.
I doubt the trajectory is as scary as India's.
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https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/india
Argentina, Turkey and Sweden have more per capita. In fact, the US is about the same as India.
I doubt the trajectory is as scary as India's.
wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 17:42 last edited by@george-k said in ‘The system has collapsed’: India’s descent into Covid hell:
Argentina, Turkey and Sweden have more per capita. In fact, the US is about the same as India.
I doubt the trajectory is as scary as India's.I also doubt that the testing regimes are comparable.
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wrote on 25 Apr 2021, 21:37 last edited by
Mass cremations:
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wrote on 25 Apr 2021, 21:41 last edited by
I saw that yesterday, I didn't want to post it, you get the feeling that this is closer to the beginning than to the end.
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wrote on 26 Apr 2021, 02:23 last edited by
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/us-provide-vaccine-components-medical-supplies-india-2021-04-25/
The United States will immediately send raw materials for COVID-19 vaccines, medical equipment and protective gear to help India respond to a massive surge in coronavirus infections, U.S. President Joe Biden said on Sunday.
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wrote on 26 Apr 2021, 03:17 last edited by
Good.
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wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:40 last edited by
And should quarantine them for 14 days.
