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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Since Cruz is a public figure and it is well known he has been vaccinated (as I assume most of Congress has been), is it any use for him or any other Senator to wear a mask while in the building?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Since Cruz is a public figure and it is well known he has been vaccinated (as I assume most of Congress has been), is it any use for him or any other Senator to wear a mask while in the building?

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      Aqua Letifer
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      @jolly said in No Mask:

      Since Cruz is a public figure and it is well known he has been vaccinated (as I assume most of Congress has been), is it any use for him or any other Senator to wear a mask while in the building?

      Sets an example, which is part of their job.

      Please love yourself.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Since Cruz is a public figure and it is well known he has been vaccinated (as I assume most of Congress has been), is it any use for him or any other Senator to wear a mask while in the building?

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        Loki
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        @jolly said in No Mask:

        Since Cruz is a public figure and it is well known he has been vaccinated (as I assume most of Congress has been), is it any use for him or any other Senator to wear a mask while in the building?

        Yeah, not giving others an excuse not to wear one.

        Monkey see monkey do.

        This mask blowback is a colossal waste of time. I can’t identify with a party that keeps throwing up barriers that are not in the public and economic good.

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          If you meet reasonable criteria to not wear it, then you should be able to not wear it.

          The motivation shouldn't be compliance or courtesy.

          What is the criteria? Is it a percentage of people vaccinated or a case/death count.

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          • CopperC Copper

            If you meet reasonable criteria to not wear it, then you should be able to not wear it.

            The motivation shouldn't be compliance or courtesy.

            What is the criteria? Is it a percentage of people vaccinated or a case/death count.

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            Loki
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            #8

            @copper said in No Mask:

            If you meet reasonable criteria to not wear it, then you should be able to not wear it.

            The motivation shouldn't be compliance or courtesy.

            What is the criteria? Is it a percentage of people vaccinated or a case/death count.

            I just made the case so the GOP might stop losing elections but if pragmatism is not in the playbook good luck.

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              Jolly
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              #9

              As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.

              The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.

                The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.

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                Aqua Letifer
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                @jolly said in No Mask:

                As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.

                The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.

                Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?

                Please love yourself.

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                  #11

                  We've been sold the idea that masks somehow correlate to tyranny, when in fact it's the very least we can do. The very least.

                  And it's clearly not just the Democrats who are a bunch of a-holes.

                  Are the people refusing to wear masks the same ones who are refusing to get vaccinated?

                  Because, if so, quite a few of them are going to get a reward for their selfishness that they're not counting on.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @jolly said in No Mask:

                    As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.

                    The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.

                    Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?

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                    Jolly
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                    @aqua-letifer said in No Mask:

                    @jolly said in No Mask:

                    As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.

                    The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.

                    Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?

                    I don't think masks are that effective beyond a certain point, when you have vaccinated people + recovered COVID patients making up a significant portion of the populance.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @aqua-letifer said in No Mask:

                      @jolly said in No Mask:

                      As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.

                      The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.

                      Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?

                      I don't think masks are that effective beyond a certain point, when you have vaccinated people + recovered COVID patients making up a significant portion of the populance.

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                      Renauda
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                      #13

                      @jolly said in No Mask:

                      @aqua-letifer said in No Mask:

                      @jolly said in No Mask:

                      As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.

                      The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.

                      Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?

                      I don't think masks are that effective beyond a certain point, when you have vaccinated people + recovered COVID patients making up a significant portion of the populance.

                      That is what you say and possibly you are right. I don't necessarily agree and will continue to wear a mask as mandated by the municipality in indoor public spaces until such time the Chief Public Health Officer here states the risk of infection is either in full retreat or has been largely eliminated to the point it is deemed safe not to wear masks.

                      The anti-mask mantra that opposes the public health recommendations measures regarding masking conveniently fits into a certain political agenda that quite frankly, is based on little other than paranoia and hysteria masquerading as liberty and enlightenment. Sadly, it too has a grip on too many individuals here as well.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @jolly said in No Mask:

                        As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.

                        The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.

                        Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?

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                        Copper
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                        #14

                        @aqua-letifer said in No Mask:

                        Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue?

                        1. It is a political issue
                        2. There is no simple, reasonable, scientific measurement for when they can come off

                        Political or emotional reasons are all we have.

                        And, of course, insults.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #15

                          The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            @doctor-phibes said in No Mask:

                            The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.

                            Liberals like masks. Worse, Fauci supports masks. Therefore masks are terrible.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @doctor-phibes said in No Mask:

                              The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.

                              Liberals like masks. Worse, Fauci supports masks. Therefore masks are terrible.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by Jolly
                              #17

                              @aqua-letifer said in No Mask:

                              @doctor-phibes said in No Mask:

                              The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.

                              Liberals like masks. Worse, Fauci supports masks. Therefore masks are terrible.

                              And you accuse me of being political?😆😆😆

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #18

                                I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.

                                It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.

                                  It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                  #19

                                  @doctor-phibes said in No Mask:

                                  I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.

                                  It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.

                                  I wouldn't say that, but there is an element of control. I think the data mines of California vs. Texas and Florida vs. New York are going to be very interesting.

                                  I think we are going to find that masks help, but are really only effective in certain circumstances. I think we already know that fomite transmission has been nothing like we thought it would be.

                                  I also think we are going to find out something we already know...That most masks are improperly fitted, incorrectly worn, overly saturated and are barely better than nothing. OTOH, when done right, I think certain circumstances benefit quite a bit from masking, at certain periods of the pandemic.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.

                                    It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.

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                                    Loki
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                                    #20

                                    @doctor-phibes said in No Mask:

                                    I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.

                                    It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.

                                    It’s more than that. Some rational people were willing to hang on and then after 1/6 those people were lost and now with all the stupid stuff of masks and anti vaxxer those people say I was right to jump ship.

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                                      George K
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                                      I'm staying SUPER safe!

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                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @doctor-phibes said in No Mask:

                                        I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.

                                        It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.

                                        I wouldn't say that, but there is an element of control. I think the data mines of California vs. Texas and Florida vs. New York are going to be very interesting.

                                        I think we are going to find that masks help, but are really only effective in certain circumstances. I think we already know that fomite transmission has been nothing like we thought it would be.

                                        I also think we are going to find out something we already know...That most masks are improperly fitted, incorrectly worn, overly saturated and are barely better than nothing. OTOH, when done right, I think certain circumstances benefit quite a bit from masking, at certain periods of the pandemic.

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                                        Copper
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                                        @jolly said in No Mask:

                                        I think the data mines of California vs. Texas and Florida vs. New York are going to be very interesting.

                                        Link to video

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