No Mask
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wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 11:45 last edited by
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wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 12:20 last edited by Mik
I wear one when indoors in public places, but only because other folks have no idea whether I have been vaccinated or not. I view it as a courtesy, one that will pass pretty shortly. That comprises maybe ten minutes of my week. Phht.
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I wear one when indoors in public places, but only because other folks have no idea whether I have been vaccinated or not. I view it as a courtesy, one that will pass pretty shortly. That comprises maybe ten minutes of my week. Phht.
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 12:23 last edited byI wear one when indoors in public places, but only because other folks have no idea whether I have been vaccinated or not. I view it as a courtesy, one that will pass pretty shortly. That comprises maybe ten minutes of my week. Phht.
I wear one now just to be respectful of others. Who knows what they are going through or what they have been through.
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wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 14:34 last edited by
Since Cruz is a public figure and it is well known he has been vaccinated (as I assume most of Congress has been), is it any use for him or any other Senator to wear a mask while in the building?
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Since Cruz is a public figure and it is well known he has been vaccinated (as I assume most of Congress has been), is it any use for him or any other Senator to wear a mask while in the building?
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Since Cruz is a public figure and it is well known he has been vaccinated (as I assume most of Congress has been), is it any use for him or any other Senator to wear a mask while in the building?
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 15:05 last edited bySince Cruz is a public figure and it is well known he has been vaccinated (as I assume most of Congress has been), is it any use for him or any other Senator to wear a mask while in the building?
Yeah, not giving others an excuse not to wear one.
Monkey see monkey do.
This mask blowback is a colossal waste of time. I can’t identify with a party that keeps throwing up barriers that are not in the public and economic good.
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wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 16:14 last edited by
If you meet reasonable criteria to not wear it, then you should be able to not wear it.
The motivation shouldn't be compliance or courtesy.
What is the criteria? Is it a percentage of people vaccinated or a case/death count.
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If you meet reasonable criteria to not wear it, then you should be able to not wear it.
The motivation shouldn't be compliance or courtesy.
What is the criteria? Is it a percentage of people vaccinated or a case/death count.
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 16:44 last edited byIf you meet reasonable criteria to not wear it, then you should be able to not wear it.
The motivation shouldn't be compliance or courtesy.
What is the criteria? Is it a percentage of people vaccinated or a case/death count.
I just made the case so the GOP might stop losing elections but if pragmatism is not in the playbook good luck.
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wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 17:48 last edited by
As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.
The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.
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As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.
The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 17:56 last edited byAs a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.
The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.
Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?
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wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 18:02 last edited by Doctor Phibes
We've been sold the idea that masks somehow correlate to tyranny, when in fact it's the very least we can do. The very least.
And it's clearly not just the Democrats who are a bunch of a-holes.
Are the people refusing to wear masks the same ones who are refusing to get vaccinated?
Because, if so, quite a few of them are going to get a reward for their selfishness that they're not counting on.
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As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.
The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.
Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 18:10 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in No Mask:
As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.
The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.
Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?
I don't think masks are that effective beyond a certain point, when you have vaccinated people + recovered COVID patients making up a significant portion of the populance.
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@aqua-letifer said in No Mask:
As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.
The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.
Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?
I don't think masks are that effective beyond a certain point, when you have vaccinated people + recovered COVID patients making up a significant portion of the populance.
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 18:51 last edited by Renauda@aqua-letifer said in No Mask:
As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.
The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.
Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?
I don't think masks are that effective beyond a certain point, when you have vaccinated people + recovered COVID patients making up a significant portion of the populance.
That is what you say and possibly you are right. I don't necessarily agree and will continue to wear a mask as mandated by the municipality in indoor public spaces until such time the Chief Public Health Officer here states the risk of infection is either in full retreat or has been largely eliminated to the point it is deemed safe not to wear masks.
The anti-mask mantra that opposes the public health recommendations measures regarding masking conveniently fits into a certain political agenda that quite frankly, is based on little other than paranoia and hysteria masquerading as liberty and enlightenment. Sadly, it too has a grip on too many individuals here as well.
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As a pragmatic matter, a butt-load of people down here do not wear masks. I was in a building supply store this morning and the only people who had them on were the employees.
The Dems are good at keepin' up the skeer, but that's only going to work for so long, even in the blue states. As COVID deaths go down, masks will no longer be an election issue.
Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue? I understand that many people have made them political, but it's not a political issue. Do you have any insights to offer about masks not being effective in slowing the spread?
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 18:56 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in No Mask:
Why do you keep viewing masks as a political issue?
- It is a political issue
- There is no simple, reasonable, scientific measurement for when they can come off
Political or emotional reasons are all we have.
And, of course, insults.
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wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 18:56 last edited by
The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.
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The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 20:55 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in No Mask:
The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.
Liberals like masks. Worse, Fauci supports masks. Therefore masks are terrible.
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@doctor-phibes said in No Mask:
The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.
Liberals like masks. Worse, Fauci supports masks. Therefore masks are terrible.
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 21:21 last edited by Jolly@aqua-letifer said in No Mask:
@doctor-phibes said in No Mask:
The phrase 'better safe than sorry' rather springs to mind here.
Liberals like masks. Worse, Fauci supports masks. Therefore masks are terrible.
And you accuse me of being political?
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wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 21:44 last edited by
I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.
It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.
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I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.
It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 22:06 last edited by Jolly@doctor-phibes said in No Mask:
I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.
It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.
I wouldn't say that, but there is an element of control. I think the data mines of California vs. Texas and Florida vs. New York are going to be very interesting.
I think we are going to find that masks help, but are really only effective in certain circumstances. I think we already know that fomite transmission has been nothing like we thought it would be.
I also think we are going to find out something we already know...That most masks are improperly fitted, incorrectly worn, overly saturated and are barely better than nothing. OTOH, when done right, I think certain circumstances benefit quite a bit from masking, at certain periods of the pandemic.
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I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.
It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.
wrote on 16 Apr 2021, 22:10 last edited by Loki@doctor-phibes said in No Mask:
I've seen a number of people claim that masks have nothing to do with safety, and are all about government control. Just as the lockdowns were.
It's certainly hard to argue with that kind of logic.
It’s more than that. Some rational people were willing to hang on and then after 1/6 those people were lost and now with all the stupid stuff of masks and anti vaxxer those people say I was right to jump ship.