$11/each
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wrote on 15 Apr 2021, 12:33 last edited by
Actually, with sales tax, a bump over $11 in the local Lowe's as of 0900 yesterday.
2x4x96.
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wrote on 15 Apr 2021, 12:45 last edited by
And you think housing prices are high now....
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wrote on 15 Apr 2021, 12:49 last edited by
By the way, that's about $2 per board foot.
For an undressed piece of pine.
I was paying $2.45 per board foot for S2S oak; inflation adjusted, that's $6.50.
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By the way, that's about $2 per board foot.
For an undressed piece of pine.
I was paying $2.45 per board foot for S2S oak; inflation adjusted, that's $6.50.
wrote on 15 Apr 2021, 18:18 last edited byBy the way, that's about $2 per board foot.
For an undressed piece of pine.
I was paying $2.45 per board foot for S2S oak; inflation adjusted, that's $6.50.
Friend of mine was paying $300/1000, for 1C Ash cut 5/4, behind the saw. He had his own kiln, where he could dry about 1500 ft.
Most talented guy I ever knew...woodwork, house building, concrete & brick work, metal lathe and machining. Built a lot of his woodworking equipment. You could show him a picture of any type of furniture and he could build it. Needed a part machined, he could make it.
He hurt his back pretty bad out in his shop one day, doing what, I don't know. But they did surgery on him, which wasn't very successful. He wore a brace all of the time, stayed in constant pain and couldn't work in his shop at all.
He called 911 one day to report an emergency at his home. When the deputy got there, they found him on the sidewalk between his home and his shop, shot in the head, gun lying beside him.
I guess he'd had enough...
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 18:10 last edited by
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 20:49 last edited by
@taiwan_girl said in $11/each:
Is the US houses going to crash? I have seen and read things (here and other places) that house sales are very fast. Demand is much higher than supply.
Just wondering if it is going to go to a crash? Thoughts?
Probably not. Urban condos and apartments? Yeah.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 21:50 last edited by
Saw an ad for an old truck yesterday and the guy wanted $700 "or trade for lumber".
Some wag joked in the comments that this was about three 2x6's.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 22:17 last edited by Mik
I checked today. Lowest grade 2x4x8 is $10. This is not sustainable.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 22:23 last edited by
Actually, I think metal studs may be cheaper than wood at the moment. Might see more of that (the rockhounds would love you).
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Actually, I think metal studs may be cheaper than wood at the moment. Might see more of that (the rockhounds would love you).
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wrote on 18 Apr 2021, 12:10 last edited by
It’s a demand issue, right? All of the home renovation projects over the last 12 months stripping the available supply and now the new housing projects driving the demand as well. Seems likely to come down sooner or later, but in the meantime it will cause some problems. There were a couple of projects that I needed to get done around the house this year, but now I’m not so sure...
As an aside, home prices have been driven up by the demand, but new construction prices have also skyrocketed due to the lumber prices, which has increased existing home prices even more. I just checked Zillow, and comps in my neighborhood are up 15% over the same time last year. That’s not sustainable.
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wrote on 18 Apr 2021, 12:25 last edited by
Is this an international issue? Is lumber skyrocketing in Germany (@Klaus ) and Asia (@taiwan_girl )? What other industries does this effect? Furniture?Flooring?Paper? Pianos?
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It’s a demand issue, right? All of the home renovation projects over the last 12 months stripping the available supply and now the new housing projects driving the demand as well. Seems likely to come down sooner or later, but in the meantime it will cause some problems. There were a couple of projects that I needed to get done around the house this year, but now I’m not so sure...
As an aside, home prices have been driven up by the demand, but new construction prices have also skyrocketed due to the lumber prices, which has increased existing home prices even more. I just checked Zillow, and comps in my neighborhood are up 15% over the same time last year. That’s not sustainable.
wrote on 18 Apr 2021, 12:46 last edited by@lufins-dad Also a supply issue from what I have seen. Canada's lumber mills were running below capacity for a long time, probably due to COVID. Shipping has gotten more expensive, and more delayed. There are several reasons for the price increases, probably more than this list.
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Is this an international issue? Is lumber skyrocketing in Germany (@Klaus ) and Asia (@taiwan_girl )? What other industries does this effect? Furniture?Flooring?Paper? Pianos?
wrote on 18 Apr 2021, 13:52 last edited by@lufins-dad said in $11/each:
Is this an international issue? Is lumber skyrocketing in Germany (@Klaus ) and Asia (@taiwan_girl )? What other industries does this effect? Furniture?Flooring?Paper? Pianos?
Paper is interesting...A lot of paper is made in SE Asia from recycled stuff generated in the U.S. Gotta have something going back on those container ships.
Problem is that the number of returning containers ain't what it was a couple of years ago. COVID, you know. Don't know what it's done to the price.
The paper industry in America sucks right now. Too many mills have been run into the ground, then closed and allowed to rust. From where I sit, there are the remains of a liner board mill (I worked at that one), a rayon mill and a paper bag paper mill, all dead, all within 60 miles.
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wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 02:25 last edited by
There are very few paper mills in the US now. Several big ones around here have closed down.
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wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 12:22 last edited by
Odd factoid...BIL really knew the paper biz at one point. You could hand him a cardboard box from anywhere in the world, and he could tell you what mill made it.
With the rise of the Chinese, and the passage of time, he can no longer do that. He can still do the North American mills...Not as much to remember.
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