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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    Actually, with sales tax, a bump over $11 in the local Lowe's as of 0900 yesterday.

    2x4x96.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      And you think housing prices are high now....

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #3

        By the way, that's about $2 per board foot.

        For an undressed piece of pine.

        I was paying $2.45 per board foot for S2S oak; inflation adjusted, that's $6.50.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          By the way, that's about $2 per board foot.

          For an undressed piece of pine.

          I was paying $2.45 per board foot for S2S oak; inflation adjusted, that's $6.50.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #4

          @george-k said in $11/each:

          By the way, that's about $2 per board foot.

          For an undressed piece of pine.

          I was paying $2.45 per board foot for S2S oak; inflation adjusted, that's $6.50.

          Friend of mine was paying $300/1000, for 1C Ash cut 5/4, behind the saw. He had his own kiln, where he could dry about 1500 ft.

          Most talented guy I ever knew...woodwork, house building, concrete & brick work, metal lathe and machining. Built a lot of his woodworking equipment. You could show him a picture of any type of furniture and he could build it. Needed a part machined, he could make it.

          He hurt his back pretty bad out in his shop one day, doing what, I don't know. But they did surgery on him, which wasn't very successful. He wore a brace all of the time, stayed in constant pain and couldn't work in his shop at all.

          He called 911 one day to report an emergency at his home. When the deputy got there, they found him on the sidewalk between his home and his shop, shot in the head, gun lying beside him.

          I guess he'd had enough...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • George KG George K

            And you think housing prices are high now....

            taiwan_girlT Offline
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            #5

            @george-k @Jolly

            Is the US houses going to crash? I have seen and read things (here and other places) that house sales are very fast. Demand is much higher than supply.

            Just wondering if it is going to go to a crash? Thoughts?

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @george-k @Jolly

              Is the US houses going to crash? I have seen and read things (here and other places) that house sales are very fast. Demand is much higher than supply.

              Just wondering if it is going to go to a crash? Thoughts?

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              @taiwan_girl said in $11/each:

              @george-k @Jolly

              Is the US houses going to crash? I have seen and read things (here and other places) that house sales are very fast. Demand is much higher than supply.

              Just wondering if it is going to go to a crash? Thoughts?

              Probably not. Urban condos and apartments? Yeah.

              The Brad

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              • KincaidK Offline
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                #7

                Saw an ad for an old truck yesterday and the guy wanted $700 "or trade for lumber".

                Some wag joked in the comments that this was about three 2x6's.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #8

                  I checked today. Lowest grade 2x4x8 is $10. This is not sustainable.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I checked today. Lowest grade 2x4x8 is $10. This is not sustainable.

                    George KG Offline
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                    @mik said in $11/each:

                    I checked today. Lowest grade 2x4x8 is $10. This is not sustainable.

                    How long before we see 24" on center studs?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                    JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                    • George KG George K

                      @mik said in $11/each:

                      I checked today. Lowest grade 2x4x8 is $10. This is not sustainable.

                      How long before we see 24" on center studs?

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @george-k said in $11/each:

                      @mik said in $11/each:

                      I checked today. Lowest grade 2x4x8 is $10. This is not sustainable.

                      How long before we see 24" on center studs?

                      Only if you use 2x6...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        Actually, I think metal studs may be cheaper than wood at the moment. Might see more of that (the rockhounds would love you).

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          Actually, I think metal studs may be cheaper than wood at the moment. Might see more of that (the rockhounds would love you).

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          @jolly said in $11/each:

                          metal studs may be cheaper than wood at the moment

                          Wouldn't surprise me at all. We have metal studs in the condo - I love 'em!

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            It’s a demand issue, right? All of the home renovation projects over the last 12 months stripping the available supply and now the new housing projects driving the demand as well. Seems likely to come down sooner or later, but in the meantime it will cause some problems. There were a couple of projects that I needed to get done around the house this year, but now I’m not so sure...

                            As an aside, home prices have been driven up by the demand, but new construction prices have also skyrocketed due to the lumber prices, which has increased existing home prices even more. I just checked Zillow, and comps in my neighborhood are up 15% over the same time last year. That’s not sustainable.

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
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                              Is this an international issue? Is lumber skyrocketing in Germany (@Klaus ) and Asia (@taiwan_girl )? What other industries does this effect? Furniture?Flooring?Paper? Pianos?

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                It’s a demand issue, right? All of the home renovation projects over the last 12 months stripping the available supply and now the new housing projects driving the demand as well. Seems likely to come down sooner or later, but in the meantime it will cause some problems. There were a couple of projects that I needed to get done around the house this year, but now I’m not so sure...

                                As an aside, home prices have been driven up by the demand, but new construction prices have also skyrocketed due to the lumber prices, which has increased existing home prices even more. I just checked Zillow, and comps in my neighborhood are up 15% over the same time last year. That’s not sustainable.

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                                brenda
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                                @lufins-dad Also a supply issue from what I have seen. Canada's lumber mills were running below capacity for a long time, probably due to COVID. Shipping has gotten more expensive, and more delayed. There are several reasons for the price increases, probably more than this list.

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Is this an international issue? Is lumber skyrocketing in Germany (@Klaus ) and Asia (@taiwan_girl )? What other industries does this effect? Furniture?Flooring?Paper? Pianos?

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @lufins-dad said in $11/each:

                                  Is this an international issue? Is lumber skyrocketing in Germany (@Klaus ) and Asia (@taiwan_girl )? What other industries does this effect? Furniture?Flooring?Paper? Pianos?

                                  Paper is interesting...A lot of paper is made in SE Asia from recycled stuff generated in the U.S. Gotta have something going back on those container ships.

                                  Problem is that the number of returning containers ain't what it was a couple of years ago. COVID, you know. Don't know what it's done to the price.

                                  The paper industry in America sucks right now. Too many mills have been run into the ground, then closed and allowed to rust. From where I sit, there are the remains of a liner board mill (I worked at that one), a rayon mill and a paper bag paper mill, all dead, all within 60 miles.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    There are very few paper mills in the US now. Several big ones around here have closed down.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Odd factoid...BIL really knew the paper biz at one point. You could hand him a cardboard box from anywhere in the world, and he could tell you what mill made it.

                                      With the rise of the Chinese, and the passage of time, he can no longer do that. He can still do the North American mills...Not as much to remember.😊

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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