Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out
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wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 21:27 last edited by
Something I noticed with my kids growing up was that when they were young, they were pretty much uninterested in, and oblivious of, the quality of special effects. They'd happily watch an old movie with crappy graphics, and even when I joked about them they'd tell me off for being negative.
Once they hit about 15-16, that all changed, and they'd laugh at the old movies for looking so cheesy.
A bit sad, really, but interesting in how they see entertainment before they've being 'educated' in how to think.
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Something I noticed with my kids growing up was that when they were young, they were pretty much uninterested in, and oblivious of, the quality of special effects. They'd happily watch an old movie with crappy graphics, and even when I joked about them they'd tell me off for being negative.
Once they hit about 15-16, that all changed, and they'd laugh at the old movies for looking so cheesy.
A bit sad, really, but interesting in how they see entertainment before they've being 'educated' in how to think.
wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 21:59 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
A bit sad, really, but interesting in how they see entertainment before they've being 'educated' in how to think.
What's really crazy are 1) movies with effects that still hold up (T2) and 2) movies that are obviously dated but hold up anyway. I don't mean old westerns that still have value after you get past the antiquated cinematography, I mean movies like The Bicycle Thief and Vertigo that are still engrossing anyway.
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@doctor-phibes said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
A bit sad, really, but interesting in how they see entertainment before they've being 'educated' in how to think.
What's really crazy are 1) movies with effects that still hold up (T2) and 2) movies that are obviously dated but hold up anyway. I don't mean old westerns that still have value after you get past the antiquated cinematography, I mean movies like The Bicycle Thief and Vertigo that are still engrossing anyway.
wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 22:01 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
movies like The Bicycle Thief and Vertigo that are still engrossing anyway.
Exactly. Vertigo's "special effects" are pretty cheesy. But, the story holds up. If you're relying on SFX to carry the movie, you need a better writer.
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@aqua-letifer said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
movies like The Bicycle Thief and Vertigo that are still engrossing anyway.
Exactly. Vertigo's "special effects" are pretty cheesy. But, the story holds up. If you're relying on SFX to carry the movie, you need a better writer.
wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 22:03 last edited by@george-k said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
@aqua-letifer said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
movies like The Bicycle Thief and Vertigo that are still engrossing anyway.
Exactly. Vertigo's "special effects" are pretty cheesy. But, the story holds up. If you're relying on SFX to carry the movie, you need a better writer.
Michael Bay would be cross with you.
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@george-k said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
@aqua-letifer said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
movies like The Bicycle Thief and Vertigo that are still engrossing anyway.
Exactly. Vertigo's "special effects" are pretty cheesy. But, the story holds up. If you're relying on SFX to carry the movie, you need a better writer.
Michael Bay would be cross with you.
wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 22:09 last edited by George K 4 Nov 2021, 22:10@aqua-letifer said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
Michael Bay would be cross with you.
All righty, then.
Because Pearl Harbor, Armageddon and the Transformer movies were so DAMN good.
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@aqua-letifer said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
Michael Bay would be cross with you.
All righty, then.
Because Pearl Harbor, Armageddon and the Transformer movies were so DAMN good.
wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 22:20 last edited by@george-k said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
All righty, then.
Because Pearl Harbor, Armageddon and the Transformer movies were so DAMN good.Right?
He's the guy I always have in mind whenever talk gets around to propping up a mediocre story with special effects. -
wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 23:43 last edited by
@aqua-letifer said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
@loki said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
I expected more of a difference.
Shows how good a job they did the first time around.
I came to the opposite conclusion — the original motion designs were done so poorly that even higher frame rate cannot make them better. I think with the technology we have today, even if you keep the same frame rate as the original, you can still get more natural looking motions than you could than the original. A “remake” or “reshoot” with the original frame rate will materially improve over algorithmic interpolations with 8x the original frame rate.
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@aqua-letifer said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
@loki said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
I expected more of a difference.
Shows how good a job they did the first time around.
I came to the opposite conclusion — the original motion designs were done so poorly that even higher frame rate cannot make them better. I think with the technology we have today, even if you keep the same frame rate as the original, you can still get more natural looking motions than you could than the original. A “remake” or “reshoot” with the original frame rate will materially improve over algorithmic interpolations with 8x the original frame rate.
wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 23:45 last edited by@axtremus said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
I came to the opposite conclusion
You willingly watch romcoms written for 12-year-old girls so I fail to see how that matters.
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@axtremus said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
I came to the opposite conclusion
You willingly watch romcoms written for 12-year-old girls so I fail to see how that matters.
wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 23:58 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
You willingly watch romcoms written for 12-year-old girls so I fail to see how that matters.
I also like Dora the Explorer movie so what’s your point?
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wrote on 12 Apr 2021, 00:57 last edited by
Jason and the Argonauts is just fine as-is, no smoothing needed
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Something I noticed with my kids growing up was that when they were young, they were pretty much uninterested in, and oblivious of, the quality of special effects. They'd happily watch an old movie with crappy graphics, and even when I joked about them they'd tell me off for being negative.
Once they hit about 15-16, that all changed, and they'd laugh at the old movies for looking so cheesy.
A bit sad, really, but interesting in how they see entertainment before they've being 'educated' in how to think.
wrote on 12 Apr 2021, 00:58 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Jason and the Argonauts - smoothed out:
Something I noticed with my kids growing up was that when they were young, they were pretty much uninterested in, and oblivious of, the quality of special effects. They'd happily watch an old movie with crappy graphics, and even when I joked about them they'd tell me off for being negative.
Once they hit about 15-16, that all changed, and they'd laugh at the old movies for looking so cheesy.
A bit sad, really, but interesting in how they see entertainment before they've being 'educated' in how to think.
Ask them about an original Godzilla, you might be surprised.