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  • M Mik
    2 Apr 2021, 12:52

    Amen, brother. Again, it would be interesting to know how many of those murders were done with legally purchased guns that would nt have been purchased under proposed rules.

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    George K
    wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 12:58 last edited by
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    @mik and don't forget that "only" 350 or so were caused by rifles. I wonder what the subset of "assault rifles" is in that group (whatever an "assault rifle" is).

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • L LuFins Dad
      2 Apr 2021, 02:49

      @jolly said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

      @lufins-dad said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

      Has anybody ever tried a statistical analysis in gun crime if you normalized the African American crime rate?

      That would be interesting.

      These are murder statistics, not murder by firearm, but the vast majority of the murders were by firearm, so it gives us a decent basis, but I am no statistician and would appreciate any help...

      https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

      It looks to me like race was identified in 11,883 of the 17,251 homicides (of which 14,532 were by firearm. So let's just use that as a baseline since it would be too much of a jump to extrapolate that race remained consistent for the 5700 unknown perpetrators.

      Of that, African Americans represented 6444 of the perpetrators or 54% while representing 13% of the population. Hispanics and Latinos represented 1505 of the perpetrators or 13% of the murderers while representing 18.5% of the population. Non-Hispanic White represented 3620 murderers or 30.5% while representing 60% of the population. 314 cases fall into “other”.

      So if the population in 2017 was 320,000,000 then that would mean that at least 15.01 of every 100,000 African American committed homicide, 2.5 of every 100,000 Hispanic/Latino, and 1.9 of every 100,000 Non-Hispanic White, which is actually right in line with our friendly neighbors in Canada, btw.

      The average shooter vs population is 4.5 in 100000. If we apply that as the baseline and brought African American Violence to that point then the total number of identified homicides committed be African Americans would be 1872, a difference of 4572, or nearly 1/3 of the total identified homicides. If we subtract that from the total homicides we get 12,679. That works out to 3.9 per 100,000. That’s a pretty big shift, and that’s still assuming that African Americans are killing at over twice the rate of the rest of the country. Still not pretty, but a pretty massive shift. If you were able to bring Hispanic and African American gun violence down to the same level as Non-Hispanic White, then the numbers would only be slightly higher than the UK, France, and all of our friends with their much vaunted gun control.

      Now this statistical analysis ain’t worth the bar napkin it was written on because over 1/4 of the murders in the US weren’t identified by race, but I think that probably makes the difference even more stark because most of these unidentified incidents are gangland shootings.

      America doesn’t have a gun problem, it has a gang violence problem.

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      Copper
      wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:20 last edited by
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      @lufins-dad said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

      5700 unknown perpetrators.

      The smart ones don't get caught.

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      • C Copper
        2 Apr 2021, 15:20

        @lufins-dad said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

        5700 unknown perpetrators.

        The smart ones don't get caught.

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        Horace
        wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:20 last edited by
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        @copper said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

        @lufins-dad said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

        5700 unknown perpetrators.

        The smart ones don't get caught.

        Asians are smart.

        Education is extremely important.

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          George K
          wrote on 3 Apr 2021, 23:14 last edited by
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          Screen Shot 2021-04-03 at 6.43.23 AM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Mik
            wrote on 3 Apr 2021, 23:35 last edited by
            #31

            Coke Zero, projectile style.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • M Mik
              3 Apr 2021, 23:35

              Coke Zero, projectile style.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 4 Apr 2021, 00:02 last edited by
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              @mik said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

              Coke Zero, projectile style.

              Agreed, but I had to read it twice to get it...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Mik
                wrote on 4 Apr 2021, 00:10 last edited by
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                Subtlety is me. 😆

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • C Copper
                  1 Apr 2021, 22:16

                  I see maybe 3 females in those pictures, just my guess.

                  I guess females are not as easily caught.

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 4 Apr 2021, 00:26 last edited by
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                  @copper said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

                  I guess females are not as easily caught.

                  It's true. We are very wily.

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                  ^

                  Meanwhile, returning to that chart of faces, which I'm sure is 100% authentic and assembled with the noblest of intentions, look at the guy three down and over six. Zing! Love at first sight! I am so-o-o in love. ❤

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    George K
                    wrote on 10 Apr 2021, 12:04 last edited by
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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      10 Apr 2021, 12:04

                      IMG_0108.jpeg

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 10 Apr 2021, 12:12 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

                      IMG_0108.jpeg

                      Oh, my giddy aunt!😂 😹 😂 😹 😂

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        10 Apr 2021, 12:12

                        @george-k said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

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                        Oh, my giddy aunt!😂 😹 😂 😹 😂

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                        George K
                        wrote on 10 Apr 2021, 12:22 last edited by
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                        @jolly said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

                        Oh, my giddy aunt!

                        Remember the "White Hispanic?"

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 10 Apr 2021, 15:07 last edited by
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                          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9448293/2-children-5-killed-South-Carolina-shooting.html?ito=push-notification&ci=121922&si=7675544&ai=9448293

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            10 Apr 2021, 15:07

                            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9448293/2-children-5-killed-South-Carolina-shooting.html?ito=push-notification&ci=121922&si=7675544&ai=9448293

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 10 Apr 2021, 16:17 last edited by
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                            @lufins-dad said in 20 Mass Shootings in Two Weeks Since Atlanta Spa Attack:

                            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9448293/2-children-5-killed-South-Carolina-shooting.html?ito=push-notification&ci=121922&si=7675544&ai=9448293

                            I've had two concussions...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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