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    Yea, that was a stroke of genius on his part. Who would have ever thought that people could get vaccinated at a pharmacy?

    Maybe they'll expand the program so you can get your influenza, shingles, or pneumonia vaccines at CVS or Walgreens. That would be great.

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      @wtg said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

      Yea, that was a stroke of genius on his part. Who would have ever thought that people could get vaccinated at a pharmacy?

      Maybe they'll expand the program so you can get your influenza, shingles, or pneumonia vaccines at CVS or Walgreens. That would be great.

      These pharmacies weren’t set up with the specialized freezers necessary for storing the Pfizer vaccine. Nor did they have the resources available to schedule and coordinate tens of thousands of appointments and secondary visits. They also did not have the resources to screen, inoculate, and monitor patients over 45 minutes, all while maintaining social distancing measures and additional COVID safety measures. To sit here and compare it to the annual flu vaccination drive is insulting and belittles the monumental task these people accomplished in a very short period of time. This wouldn’t have happened this successfully without the business leader summits at the WH and the previous administrations support.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @wtg said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

        Yea, that was a stroke of genius on his part. Who would have ever thought that people could get vaccinated at a pharmacy?

        Maybe they'll expand the program so you can get your influenza, shingles, or pneumonia vaccines at CVS or Walgreens. That would be great.

        These pharmacies weren’t set up with the specialized freezers necessary for storing the Pfizer vaccine. Nor did they have the resources available to schedule and coordinate tens of thousands of appointments and secondary visits. They also did not have the resources to screen, inoculate, and monitor patients over 45 minutes, all while maintaining social distancing measures and additional COVID safety measures. To sit here and compare it to the annual flu vaccination drive is insulting and belittles the monumental task these people accomplished in a very short period of time. This wouldn’t have happened this successfully without the business leader summits at the WH and the previous administrations support.

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        @lufins-dad said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

        @wtg said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

        Yea, that was a stroke of genius on his part. Who would have ever thought that people could get vaccinated at a pharmacy?

        Maybe they'll expand the program so you can get your influenza, shingles, or pneumonia vaccines at CVS or Walgreens. That would be great.

        These pharmacies weren’t set up with the specialized freezers necessary for storing the Pfizer vaccine. Nor did they have the resources available to schedule and coordinate tens of thousands of appointments and secondary visits. They also did not have the resources to screen, inoculate, and monitor patients over 45 minutes, all while maintaining social distancing measures and additional COVID safety measures. To sit here and compare it to the annual flu vaccination drive is insulting and belittles the monumental task these people accomplished in a very short period of time. This wouldn’t have happened this successfully without the business leader summits at the WH and the previous administrations support.

        Yeah, but Trump.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Loki
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          #8

          https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/29/covid-vaccine-sites-478233

          More on the new Biden strategy and the efficiency of the private sector vs gov’t run.

          Kind of like USPS vs Amazon and Fed Ex.

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          • L Loki

            Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

            https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2021/03/29/mass-vaccination-sites-fizzle-794311

            2.5% of all shots given. I’m whelmed.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #9

            @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

            Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

            To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

              Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

              To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

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              @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

              @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

              Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

              To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

              Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.

              If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.

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              • L Loki

                @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

                To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

                Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.

                If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.

                Doctor PhibesD Online
                Doctor PhibesD Online
                Doctor Phibes
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                #11

                @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

                To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

                Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.

                If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.

                To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                  @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                  Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

                  To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

                  Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.

                  If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.

                  To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by Jolly
                  #12

                  @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                  @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                  @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                  Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

                  To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

                  Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.

                  If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.

                  To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.

                  To be fair, Dartmouth and Brown recently looked at pandemic coverage by the media, pre and post-Trump. The differences were striking. There was a lot more negative coverage, both about the pandemic itself and about Trump's efforts to combat it. After Biden was elected, the number if negative stories dropped, especially those concerning the efforts of the White House.

                  Perception...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                    @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                    @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                    Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

                    To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

                    Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.

                    If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.

                    To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.

                    To be fair, Dartmouth and Brown recently looked at pandemic coverage by the media, pre and post-Trump. The differences were striking. There was a lot more negative coverage, both about the pandemic itself and about Trump's efforts to combat it. After Biden was elected, the number if negative stories dropped, especially those concerning the efforts of the White House.

                    Perception...

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                    Loki
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                    #13

                    @jolly said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                    @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                    @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                    Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

                    To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

                    Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.

                    If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.

                    To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.

                    To be fair, Dartmouth and Brown recently looked at pandemic coverage by the media, pre and post-Trump. The differences were striking. There was a lot more negative coverage, both about the pandemic itself and about Trump's efforts to combat it. After Biden was elected, the number if negative stories dropped, especially those concerning the efforts of the White House.

                    Perception...

                    But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.

                    And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?

                    It’s all righteous partisanship.

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                      @jolly said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                      @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                      @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                      Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

                      To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.

                      Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.

                      If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.

                      To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.

                      To be fair, Dartmouth and Brown recently looked at pandemic coverage by the media, pre and post-Trump. The differences were striking. There was a lot more negative coverage, both about the pandemic itself and about Trump's efforts to combat it. After Biden was elected, the number if negative stories dropped, especially those concerning the efforts of the White House.

                      Perception...

                      But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.

                      And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?

                      It’s all righteous partisanship.

                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #14

                      @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                      But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.
                      And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?
                      It’s all righteous partisanship.

                      You won't get any argument from me about the US media, but the media aren't the ones approving and rolling out the vaccine, and deciding who gets vaccinated.

                      It seems to me that a number of countries allowed the UK to be the canary in the coalmine, and now the UK are getting the benefit there's a lot of complaining from people who who were happy for them to take the risk about how unfair it all is.

                      I was only joking

                      JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                        But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.
                        And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?
                        It’s all righteous partisanship.

                        You won't get any argument from me about the US media, but the media aren't the ones approving and rolling out the vaccine, and deciding who gets vaccinated.

                        It seems to me that a number of countries allowed the UK to be the canary in the coalmine, and now the UK are getting the benefit there's a lot of complaining from people who who were happy for them to take the risk about how unfair it all is.

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                        Jolly
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                        @doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                        @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                        But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.
                        And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?
                        It’s all righteous partisanship.

                        You won't get any argument from me about the US media, but the media aren't the ones approving and rolling out the vaccine, and deciding who gets vaccinated.

                        It seems to me that a number of countries allowed the UK to be the canary in the coalmine, and now the UK are getting the benefit there's a lot of complaining from people who who were happy for them to take the risk about how unfair it all is.

                        You know what you know, when you know it. The U.S. may very well have been closely monitoring the U.K. strategy, trying to decide what to do.

                        And let me remind y'all of something else. For many years, I understood quite well how glacial the FDA could be. I've said many, many times I was shocked at how fast the Trump Administration made them move, both in testing approval and in vaccine approval.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • L Loki

                          Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

                          https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2021/03/29/mass-vaccination-sites-fizzle-794311

                          2.5% of all shots given. I’m whelmed.

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                          Copper
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                          @loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:

                          Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much

                          In Boston, my mother and sister had the option to go to a government site

                          They were afraid to go to the neighborhood where the shots were offered - it was in a a high crime area is the reason. The high crime area is better for politician photo ops

                          So they went to the suburbs and a non-government site

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