Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites
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wrote on 29 Mar 2021, 19:48 last edited by Loki
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2021/03/29/mass-vaccination-sites-fizzle-794311
2.5% of all shots given. I’m whelmed.
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wrote on 29 Mar 2021, 21:18 last edited by Renauda
I understand similar is occurring in Ontario where the provincial government has set up mass vaccination sites.
Nothing exclusive to the US.
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wrote on 29 Mar 2021, 21:46 last edited by A Former User
21 federally supported locations gave 2.5% of shots.
All the rest were administered via pharmacies, mass vaccination county and state sites, and hospital systems.
How many other sites were involved in that 97.5%? Hundreds? Thousands?
What was the distribution across those other entities?
edit: Found the info. Here's the money quote:
“It’s clear that Americans feel comfortable relying on their local pharmacies for the vaccine,” said one senior Biden health official. “The retail pharmacy program will keep growing and I think you will begin to see more people going down the block to CVS to get the shot than driving maybe an hour to the federal sites to get it.”
The old maxim "location, location, location" applies here.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/29/covid-vaccine-sites-478233
It also helps that the pharmacies are now providing an easier way to set up an appointment. When they first started giving vaccines, Walgreens, CVS, and Jewel Osco made you look at appointments available at a single location on a given day. None available, move to another day. It was frustrating and tedious. Now they have the "show me the first available appointment for a location within 10 miles of me".
It's all about convenience.
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wrote on 29 Mar 2021, 23:24 last edited by
Thank goodness Trump let pharmacies give the shot...
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wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 00:56 last edited by
Yea, that was a stroke of genius on his part. Who would have ever thought that people could get vaccinated at a pharmacy?
Maybe they'll expand the program so you can get your influenza, shingles, or pneumonia vaccines at CVS or Walgreens. That would be great.
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wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 02:24 last edited by
@wtg said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Yea, that was a stroke of genius on his part. Who would have ever thought that people could get vaccinated at a pharmacy?
Maybe they'll expand the program so you can get your influenza, shingles, or pneumonia vaccines at CVS or Walgreens. That would be great.
These pharmacies weren’t set up with the specialized freezers necessary for storing the Pfizer vaccine. Nor did they have the resources available to schedule and coordinate tens of thousands of appointments and secondary visits. They also did not have the resources to screen, inoculate, and monitor patients over 45 minutes, all while maintaining social distancing measures and additional COVID safety measures. To sit here and compare it to the annual flu vaccination drive is insulting and belittles the monumental task these people accomplished in a very short period of time. This wouldn’t have happened this successfully without the business leader summits at the WH and the previous administrations support.
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@wtg said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Yea, that was a stroke of genius on his part. Who would have ever thought that people could get vaccinated at a pharmacy?
Maybe they'll expand the program so you can get your influenza, shingles, or pneumonia vaccines at CVS or Walgreens. That would be great.
These pharmacies weren’t set up with the specialized freezers necessary for storing the Pfizer vaccine. Nor did they have the resources available to schedule and coordinate tens of thousands of appointments and secondary visits. They also did not have the resources to screen, inoculate, and monitor patients over 45 minutes, all while maintaining social distancing measures and additional COVID safety measures. To sit here and compare it to the annual flu vaccination drive is insulting and belittles the monumental task these people accomplished in a very short period of time. This wouldn’t have happened this successfully without the business leader summits at the WH and the previous administrations support.
wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 05:58 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@wtg said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Yea, that was a stroke of genius on his part. Who would have ever thought that people could get vaccinated at a pharmacy?
Maybe they'll expand the program so you can get your influenza, shingles, or pneumonia vaccines at CVS or Walgreens. That would be great.
These pharmacies weren’t set up with the specialized freezers necessary for storing the Pfizer vaccine. Nor did they have the resources available to schedule and coordinate tens of thousands of appointments and secondary visits. They also did not have the resources to screen, inoculate, and monitor patients over 45 minutes, all while maintaining social distancing measures and additional COVID safety measures. To sit here and compare it to the annual flu vaccination drive is insulting and belittles the monumental task these people accomplished in a very short period of time. This wouldn’t have happened this successfully without the business leader summits at the WH and the previous administrations support.
Yeah, but Trump.
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wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 11:43 last edited by Loki
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/29/covid-vaccine-sites-478233
More on the new Biden strategy and the efficiency of the private sector vs gov’t run.
Kind of like USPS vs Amazon and Fed Ex.
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Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2021/03/29/mass-vaccination-sites-fizzle-794311
2.5% of all shots given. I’m whelmed.
wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 12:18 last edited by@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
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@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 12:21 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.
If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.
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@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.
If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.
wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 12:28 last edited by@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.
If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.
To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.
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@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.
If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.
To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.
wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 13:00 last edited by Jolly@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.
If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.
To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.
To be fair, Dartmouth and Brown recently looked at pandemic coverage by the media, pre and post-Trump. The differences were striking. There was a lot more negative coverage, both about the pandemic itself and about Trump's efforts to combat it. After Biden was elected, the number if negative stories dropped, especially those concerning the efforts of the White House.
Perception...
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@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.
If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.
To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.
To be fair, Dartmouth and Brown recently looked at pandemic coverage by the media, pre and post-Trump. The differences were striking. There was a lot more negative coverage, both about the pandemic itself and about Trump's efforts to combat it. After Biden was elected, the number if negative stories dropped, especially those concerning the efforts of the White House.
Perception...
wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 13:05 last edited by@jolly said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.
If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.
To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.
To be fair, Dartmouth and Brown recently looked at pandemic coverage by the media, pre and post-Trump. The differences were striking. There was a lot more negative coverage, both about the pandemic itself and about Trump's efforts to combat it. After Biden was elected, the number if negative stories dropped, especially those concerning the efforts of the White House.
Perception...
But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.
And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?
It’s all righteous partisanship.
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@jolly said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
To be honest, just at the moment, I rather wish I lived in the UK.
Yeah they approved the vaccines so much faster and went for the first dose strategy.
If we started with the really elderly in November we would be so much further along. Our focus was get Trump out of office so don’t be too harsh on our results.
To be fair, the focus of both sides was squarely on the election. You concentrated on two elderly gentlemen, rather than all of the others.
To be fair, Dartmouth and Brown recently looked at pandemic coverage by the media, pre and post-Trump. The differences were striking. There was a lot more negative coverage, both about the pandemic itself and about Trump's efforts to combat it. After Biden was elected, the number if negative stories dropped, especially those concerning the efforts of the White House.
Perception...
But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.
And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?
It’s all righteous partisanship.
wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 13:24 last edited by Doctor Phibes@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.
And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?
It’s all righteous partisanship.You won't get any argument from me about the US media, but the media aren't the ones approving and rolling out the vaccine, and deciding who gets vaccinated.
It seems to me that a number of countries allowed the UK to be the canary in the coalmine, and now the UK are getting the benefit there's a lot of complaining from people who who were happy for them to take the risk about how unfair it all is.
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@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.
And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?
It’s all righteous partisanship.You won't get any argument from me about the US media, but the media aren't the ones approving and rolling out the vaccine, and deciding who gets vaccinated.
It seems to me that a number of countries allowed the UK to be the canary in the coalmine, and now the UK are getting the benefit there's a lot of complaining from people who who were happy for them to take the risk about how unfair it all is.
wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 13:31 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
But I thought the media was based on “science”. What a joke.
And how many more lives would have been saved with earlier rollout? I thought it was ALWAYS about needless deaths?
It’s all righteous partisanship.You won't get any argument from me about the US media, but the media aren't the ones approving and rolling out the vaccine, and deciding who gets vaccinated.
It seems to me that a number of countries allowed the UK to be the canary in the coalmine, and now the UK are getting the benefit there's a lot of complaining from people who who were happy for them to take the risk about how unfair it all is.
You know what you know, when you know it. The U.S. may very well have been closely monitoring the U.K. strategy, trying to decide what to do.
And let me remind y'all of something else. For many years, I understood quite well how glacial the FDA could be. I've said many, many times I was shocked at how fast the Trump Administration made them move, both in testing approval and in vaccine approval.
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Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2021/03/29/mass-vaccination-sites-fizzle-794311
2.5% of all shots given. I’m whelmed.
wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 16:15 last edited by Copper@loki said in Turns out people don’t choose Gov’t vaccine sites:
Just another data point about how people really want their healthcare....govt run not so much
In Boston, my mother and sister had the option to go to a government site
They were afraid to go to the neighborhood where the shots were offered - it was in a a high crime area is the reason. The high crime area is better for politician photo ops
So they went to the suburbs and a non-government site