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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    You're bottom of the shithole countries!

    USA! USA! USA!

    I was only joking

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    • CopperC Copper

      Homicide rate by country

      Rank Country Value Year
      1 El Salvador 61.80 2017
      2 Jamaica 57.00 2017
      3 Venezuela 56.30 2016
      4 Honduras 41.70 2017
      5 Lesotho 41.20 2015
      6 Belize 37.90 2017
      7 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 36.50 2016
      8 South Africa 35.90 2017
      9 St. Kitts and Nevis 34.20 2012
      10 Trinidad and Tobago 30.90 2015
      10 The Bahamas 30.90 2017
      12 Brazil 30.50 2017
      13 St. Lucia 29.60 2017
      14 Guatemala 26.10 2017
      15 Dominica 25.70 2017
      16 Colombia 24.90 2017
      17 Mexico 24.80 2017
      18 Central African Republic 19.80 2016
      19 Tuvalu 18.60 2012
      20 Puerto Rico 18.50 2017
      21 Namibia 17.10 2012
      22 Botswana 15.00 2010
      23 Guyana 14.80 2017
      24 Seychelles 12.70 2016
      25 Costa Rica 12.30 2017
      26 Cabo Verde 11.50 2016
      27 Dominican Republic 11.30 2017
      28 Grenada 11.10 2017
      29 Uganda 11.00 2017
      30 Barbados 10.50 2017
      31 Antigua and Barbuda 10.30 2012
      32 Papua New Guinea 10.00 2010
      33 Iraq 9.90 2013
      34 Panama 9.70 2017
      35 Haiti 9.50 2016
      35 Eswatini 9.50 2017
      37 Russia 9.20 2017
      38 Paraguay 8.90 2016
      39 Cayman Islands 8.40 2014
      39 Philippines 8.40 2017
      41 Uruguay 8.20 2017
      42 Peru 7.70 2017
      43 Kiribati 7.50 2012
      44 Nicaragua 7.40 2016
      45 Afghanistan 7.10 2017
      46 Zimbabwe 6.70 2012
      46 Yemen 6.70 2013
      48 Bolivia 6.30 2016
      49 Tanzania 6.20 2016
      49 Mongolia 6.20 2017
      49 Ukraine 6.20 2017
      52 Burundi 6.00 2016
      53 Ecuador 5.80 2017
      54 Suriname 5.50 2017
      55 Zambia 5.30 2015
      55 United States 5.30 2017
      55 Greenland 5.30 2016

      JollyJ Offline
      JollyJ Offline
      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      @copper said in Guns and Voters:

      Homicide rate by country

      Rank Country Value Year
      1 El Salvador 61.80 2017
      2 Jamaica 57.00 2017
      3 Venezuela 56.30 2016
      4 Honduras 41.70 2017
      5 Lesotho 41.20 2015
      6 Belize 37.90 2017
      7 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 36.50 2016
      8 South Africa 35.90 2017
      9 St. Kitts and Nevis 34.20 2012
      10 Trinidad and Tobago 30.90 2015
      10 The Bahamas 30.90 2017
      12 Brazil 30.50 2017
      13 St. Lucia 29.60 2017
      14 Guatemala 26.10 2017
      15 Dominica 25.70 2017
      16 Colombia 24.90 2017
      17 Mexico 24.80 2017
      18 Central African Republic 19.80 2016
      19 Tuvalu 18.60 2012
      20 Puerto Rico 18.50 2017
      21 Namibia 17.10 2012
      22 Botswana 15.00 2010
      23 Guyana 14.80 2017
      24 Seychelles 12.70 2016
      25 Costa Rica 12.30 2017
      26 Cabo Verde 11.50 2016
      27 Dominican Republic 11.30 2017
      28 Grenada 11.10 2017
      29 Uganda 11.00 2017
      30 Barbados 10.50 2017
      31 Antigua and Barbuda 10.30 2012
      32 Papua New Guinea 10.00 2010
      33 Iraq 9.90 2013
      34 Panama 9.70 2017
      35 Haiti 9.50 2016
      35 Eswatini 9.50 2017
      37 Russia 9.20 2017
      38 Paraguay 8.90 2016
      39 Cayman Islands 8.40 2014
      39 Philippines 8.40 2017
      41 Uruguay 8.20 2017
      42 Peru 7.70 2017
      43 Kiribati 7.50 2012
      44 Nicaragua 7.40 2016
      45 Afghanistan 7.10 2017
      46 Zimbabwe 6.70 2012
      46 Yemen 6.70 2013
      48 Bolivia 6.30 2016
      49 Tanzania 6.20 2016
      49 Mongolia 6.20 2017
      49 Ukraine 6.20 2017
      52 Burundi 6.00 2016
      53 Ecuador 5.80 2017
      54 Suriname 5.50 2017
      55 Zambia 5.30 2015
      55 United States 5.30 2017
      55 Greenland 5.30 2016

      alt text

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @copper said in Guns and Voters:

        Homicide rate by country

        Rank Country Value Year
        1 El Salvador 61.80 2017
        2 Jamaica 57.00 2017
        3 Venezuela 56.30 2016
        4 Honduras 41.70 2017
        5 Lesotho 41.20 2015
        6 Belize 37.90 2017
        7 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 36.50 2016
        8 South Africa 35.90 2017
        9 St. Kitts and Nevis 34.20 2012
        10 Trinidad and Tobago 30.90 2015
        10 The Bahamas 30.90 2017
        12 Brazil 30.50 2017
        13 St. Lucia 29.60 2017
        14 Guatemala 26.10 2017
        15 Dominica 25.70 2017
        16 Colombia 24.90 2017
        17 Mexico 24.80 2017
        18 Central African Republic 19.80 2016
        19 Tuvalu 18.60 2012
        20 Puerto Rico 18.50 2017
        21 Namibia 17.10 2012
        22 Botswana 15.00 2010
        23 Guyana 14.80 2017
        24 Seychelles 12.70 2016
        25 Costa Rica 12.30 2017
        26 Cabo Verde 11.50 2016
        27 Dominican Republic 11.30 2017
        28 Grenada 11.10 2017
        29 Uganda 11.00 2017
        30 Barbados 10.50 2017
        31 Antigua and Barbuda 10.30 2012
        32 Papua New Guinea 10.00 2010
        33 Iraq 9.90 2013
        34 Panama 9.70 2017
        35 Haiti 9.50 2016
        35 Eswatini 9.50 2017
        37 Russia 9.20 2017
        38 Paraguay 8.90 2016
        39 Cayman Islands 8.40 2014
        39 Philippines 8.40 2017
        41 Uruguay 8.20 2017
        42 Peru 7.70 2017
        43 Kiribati 7.50 2012
        44 Nicaragua 7.40 2016
        45 Afghanistan 7.10 2017
        46 Zimbabwe 6.70 2012
        46 Yemen 6.70 2013
        48 Bolivia 6.30 2016
        49 Tanzania 6.20 2016
        49 Mongolia 6.20 2017
        49 Ukraine 6.20 2017
        52 Burundi 6.00 2016
        53 Ecuador 5.80 2017
        54 Suriname 5.50 2017
        55 Zambia 5.30 2015
        55 United States 5.30 2017
        55 Greenland 5.30 2016

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        Doctor PhibesD Offline
        Doctor PhibesD Offline
        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
        #10

        @jolly If you want to compare the US to those countries to claim success in fighting crime, you've really lost the argument.

        I was only joking

        CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @jolly If you want to compare the US to those countries to claim success in fighting crime, you've really lost the argument.

          CopperC Online
          CopperC Online
          Copper
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @doctor-phibes said in Guns and Voters:

          @jolly If you want to compare the US to those countries to claim success in fighting crime, you've really lost the argument.

          TG found a list of countries

          I found a different list

          Curse the lists or light a candle

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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
            Doctor PhibesD Offline
            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            The fact that your list is basically a list of countries that Donald Trump doesn't want people to emigrate from didn't give you pause at all?

            I was only joking

            RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              The fact that your list is basically a list of countries that Donald Trump doesn't want people to emigrate from didn't give you pause at all?

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #13

              @doctor-phibes

              No wonder he wanted to annex purchase Greenland from Denmark.

              Elbows up!

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              • CopperC Online
                CopperC Online
                Copper
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                There are some unsavory places on my list

                But I also have several that should be considered "developed" that somehow, TG left off her list.

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  As some have noticed, the graph I posted was, as the title said, for developed countries excluding South Africa.

                  Below is a graph of all countries.

                  alt text

                  "But is it really fair to compare the U.S. to dangerous, developing countries like Honduras? Probably not. If the data is whittled down to include only developed countries, this is the result:"

                  alt text

                  "So, what happens if we eliminate South Africa from the analysis?"

                  alt text

                  "The developed countries in the third graph included: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, UK (represented separately as "England & Wales" and "Northern Ireland") and the United States. Excluded from this list were South Africa, for the reasons listed above, as well as Andorra, Bermuda, Faroe Islands, Vatican, Liechtenstein, Monaco and San Marino due to insufficient data."

                  If you include many Asia "developed" countries (Japan, Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, etc., it would not make the US look better.

                  @Copper I am curious which ones you consider developed equal to the US from your list?

                  CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    As some have noticed, the graph I posted was, as the title said, for developed countries excluding South Africa.

                    Below is a graph of all countries.

                    alt text

                    "But is it really fair to compare the U.S. to dangerous, developing countries like Honduras? Probably not. If the data is whittled down to include only developed countries, this is the result:"

                    alt text

                    "So, what happens if we eliminate South Africa from the analysis?"

                    alt text

                    "The developed countries in the third graph included: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, UK (represented separately as "England & Wales" and "Northern Ireland") and the United States. Excluded from this list were South Africa, for the reasons listed above, as well as Andorra, Bermuda, Faroe Islands, Vatican, Liechtenstein, Monaco and San Marino due to insufficient data."

                    If you include many Asia "developed" countries (Japan, Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, etc., it would not make the US look better.

                    @Copper I am curious which ones you consider developed equal to the US from your list?

                    CopperC Online
                    CopperC Online
                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    @taiwan_girl said in Guns and Voters:

                    @Copper I am curious which ones you consider developed equal to the US from your list?

                    Since we became great again there is really only 1.

                    Of course this has already begun to slip.

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @doctor-phibes

                      No wonder he wanted to annex purchase Greenland from Denmark.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      @renauda said in Guns and Voters:

                      @doctor-phibes

                      No wonder he wanted to annex purchase Greenland from Denmark.

                      I'd always assumed he wanted to build the world's most challenging golf course there.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @renauda said in Guns and Voters:

                        @doctor-phibes

                        No wonder he wanted to annex purchase Greenland from Denmark.

                        I'd always assumed he wanted to build the world's most challenging golf course there.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        @doctor-phibes said in Guns and Voters:

                        @renauda said in Guns and Voters:

                        @doctor-phibes

                        No wonder he wanted to annex purchase Greenland from Denmark.

                        I'd always assumed he wanted to build the world's most challenging golf course there.

                        Actually, it made pretty good sense from a strategic perspective.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @renauda said in Guns and Voters:

                          @doctor-phibes

                          No wonder he wanted to annex purchase Greenland from Denmark.

                          I'd always assumed he wanted to build the world's most challenging golf course there.

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                          taiwan_girl
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                          @doctor-phibes said in Guns and Voters:

                          @renauda said in Guns and Voters:

                          @doctor-phibes

                          No wonder he wanted to annex purchase Greenland from Denmark.

                          I'd always assumed he wanted to build the world's most challenging golf course there.

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