Third Wave Here?
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wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 16:47 last edited by
Infections are rising in the following states: Alabama; Connecticut; Hawaii; Idaho; Illinois; Maine; Maryland; Massachusetts; Michigan; Minnesota; Missouri; Montana; New Hampshire; New Jersey; New York; North Dakota; Pennsylvania; Rhode Island; Virginia; Washington; and West Virginia.
The highly contagious variant first identified in the U.K. likely accounts for up to 30% of Covid infections in the U.S. Health officials say the variant could become dominant by the end of this month or in early April.
The variant is seen as the cause of Europe’s third coronavirus wave. Several countries including France and Italy have imposed new lockdown measures to mitigate virus spread as cases surge.
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Infections are rising in the following states: Alabama; Connecticut; Hawaii; Idaho; Illinois; Maine; Maryland; Massachusetts; Michigan; Minnesota; Missouri; Montana; New Hampshire; New Jersey; New York; North Dakota; Pennsylvania; Rhode Island; Virginia; Washington; and West Virginia.
The highly contagious variant first identified in the U.K. likely accounts for up to 30% of Covid infections in the U.S. Health officials say the variant could become dominant by the end of this month or in early April.
The variant is seen as the cause of Europe’s third coronavirus wave. Several countries including France and Italy have imposed new lockdown measures to mitigate virus spread as cases surge.
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 16:50 last edited byIf we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.
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wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 17:28 last edited by
If Mr. Trump was president the whole world would be vaccinated right now.
There would be no new wave or variant.
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If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 17:30 last edited by@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.
Hush. There is no cause to be concerned about media bias.
I read that here on this board...
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@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.
Hush. There is no cause to be concerned about media bias.
I read that here on this board...
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 17:50 last edited by@jolly said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.
Hush. There is no cause to be concerned about media bias.
I read that here on this board...
It isn't a problem.
Or rather, it's precisely the same level of problem as "inherent bias" and misinformation in Coke commercials. And getting high blood pressure over the former is just as silly as doing the same for the latter. The news isn't the news anymore and only the media illiterate (and those who already want to believe the narrative) are getting duped. Which, by my estimation, isn't as many people as you're implying. Most folks I know on both sides of the political spectrum roll their eyes at anything coming out of mainstream media.
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If Mr. Trump was president the whole world would be vaccinated right now.
There would be no new wave or variant.
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 18:05 last edited by Renauda@copper said in Third Wave Here?:
If Mr. Trump was president the whole world would be vaccinated right now.
There would be no new wave or variant.
True enough but Covid is a virus not bullshit demagoguery. Most of us outside the US already had herd immunity to the latter.
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wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 18:15 last edited by
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
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wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 18:20 last edited by
Climbing up there here as well. Variants are a big factor.
Glad I'm scheduled for my first Pfizer shot on 1 April.
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wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 18:26 last edited by
I've had both Pfizers now. No side effects at all. I was tired the day after the second shot, but we did two all day drives to get there from the Florida Keys.
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wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 18:48 last edited by
No one here I know has had any side effects or adverse reactions to any of vaccines.
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wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 19:01 last edited by brenda
Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.
Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.
I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL
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@jolly said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.
Hush. There is no cause to be concerned about media bias.
I read that here on this board...
It isn't a problem.
Or rather, it's precisely the same level of problem as "inherent bias" and misinformation in Coke commercials. And getting high blood pressure over the former is just as silly as doing the same for the latter. The news isn't the news anymore and only the media illiterate (and those who already want to believe the narrative) are getting duped. Which, by my estimation, isn't as many people as you're implying. Most folks I know on both sides of the political spectrum roll their eyes at anything coming out of mainstream media.
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 19:45 last edited by Jolly@aqua-letifer said in Third Wave Here?:
@jolly said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.
Hush. There is no cause to be concerned about media bias.
I read that here on this board...
It isn't a problem.
Or rather, it's precisely the same level of problem as "inherent bias" and misinformation in Coke commercials. And getting high blood pressure over the former is just as silly as doing the same for the latter. The news isn't the news anymore and only the media illiterate (and those who already want to believe the narrative) are getting duped. Which, by my estimation, isn't as many people as you're implying. Most folks I know on both sides of the political spectrum roll their eyes at anything coming out of mainstream media.
I respectfully disagree.
Most people's lives are too busy too notice the bias that permeates media. And since that media is overwhelmingly made up of people who are Dem voters (and hence more Leftist) the vast bulk of the narrative is from a single viewpoint.
So it doesn't matter if your news view is shaped by tv news, radio news, or podcasts, when viewed in toto as a single megaphone, the information is constantly slanted and fits a single narrative.
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Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.
Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.
I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 21:20 last edited by@brenda said in Third Wave Here?:
Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.
Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.
I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL
That is similar to my reaction to the first Moderna shot, and I had the virus
Second shot will be 4/1
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You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 22:18 last edited by@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
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@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 22:57 last edited by@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed?
Zero dollars and zero cents.
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@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 23:00 last edited by@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.
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@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 23:04 last edited by Loki@aqua-letifer said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.
Haha. I’m just saying when people see the bill there are going to be some pretty lively conversations about who pays. Lives saved will long be forgotten, because if that were the real issue we would have double the vaccinated by now. I’m patient, and I can almost write the future headlines.
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wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 23:11 last edited by
With the some 6T that’s already been thrown at this? Irrelevant.
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wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 23:15 last edited by
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
With the some 6T that’s already been thrown at this? Irrelevant.
Free education, free healthcare, reparations, environmental regulations are up next. That’s a lot of fiat money.
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@aqua-letifer said in Third Wave Here?:
@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
@mik said in Third Wave Here?:
You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.
How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.
Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.
Haha. I’m just saying when people see the bill there are going to be some pretty lively conversations about who pays. Lives saved will long be forgotten, because if that were the real issue we would have double the vaccinated by now. I’m patient, and I can almost write the future headlines.
wrote on 21 Mar 2021, 23:29 last edited by@loki said in Third Wave Here?:
Lives saved will long be forgotten, because if that were the real issue
Well, it is for me, so I don't care what they raise it to.