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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

    If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.

    Hush. There is no cause to be concerned about media bias.

    I read that here on this board...

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    Aqua Letifer
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    #5

    @jolly said in Third Wave Here?:

    @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

    If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.

    Hush. There is no cause to be concerned about media bias.

    I read that here on this board...

    It isn't a problem.

    Or rather, it's precisely the same level of problem as "inherent bias" and misinformation in Coke commercials. And getting high blood pressure over the former is just as silly as doing the same for the latter. The news isn't the news anymore and only the media illiterate (and those who already want to believe the narrative) are getting duped. Which, by my estimation, isn't as many people as you're implying. Most folks I know on both sides of the political spectrum roll their eyes at anything coming out of mainstream media.

    Please love yourself.

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    • CopperC Copper

      If Mr. Trump was president the whole world would be vaccinated right now.

      There would be no new wave or variant.

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      #6

      @copper said in Third Wave Here?:

      If Mr. Trump was president the whole world would be vaccinated right now.

      There would be no new wave or variant.

      True enough but Covid is a virus not bullshit demagoguery. Most of us outside the US already had herd immunity to the latter.

      Elbows up!

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        #7

        You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Renauda
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          Climbing up there here as well. Variants are a big factor.

          Glad I'm scheduled for my first Pfizer shot on 1 April.

          Elbows up!

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            I've had both Pfizers now. No side effects at all. I was tired the day after the second shot, but we did two all day drives to get there from the Florida Keys.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Renauda
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              #10

              No one here I know has had any side effects or adverse reactions to any of vaccines.

              Elbows up!

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                #11

                Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.

                Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.

                I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @jolly said in Third Wave Here?:

                  @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                  If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.

                  Hush. There is no cause to be concerned about media bias.

                  I read that here on this board...

                  It isn't a problem.

                  Or rather, it's precisely the same level of problem as "inherent bias" and misinformation in Coke commercials. And getting high blood pressure over the former is just as silly as doing the same for the latter. The news isn't the news anymore and only the media illiterate (and those who already want to believe the narrative) are getting duped. Which, by my estimation, isn't as many people as you're implying. Most folks I know on both sides of the political spectrum roll their eyes at anything coming out of mainstream media.

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                  Jolly
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                  #12

                  @aqua-letifer said in Third Wave Here?:

                  @jolly said in Third Wave Here?:

                  @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                  If we got the vaccines earlier this would not even be an article. But now that we have the President we want we won’t even hypothesize on blame.

                  Hush. There is no cause to be concerned about media bias.

                  I read that here on this board...

                  It isn't a problem.

                  Or rather, it's precisely the same level of problem as "inherent bias" and misinformation in Coke commercials. And getting high blood pressure over the former is just as silly as doing the same for the latter. The news isn't the news anymore and only the media illiterate (and those who already want to believe the narrative) are getting duped. Which, by my estimation, isn't as many people as you're implying. Most folks I know on both sides of the political spectrum roll their eyes at anything coming out of mainstream media.

                  I respectfully disagree.

                  Most people's lives are too busy too notice the bias that permeates media. And since that media is overwhelmingly made up of people who are Dem voters (and hence more Leftist) the vast bulk of the narrative is from a single viewpoint.

                  So it doesn't matter if your news view is shaped by tv news, radio news, or podcasts, when viewed in toto as a single megaphone, the information is constantly slanted and fits a single narrative.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • brendaB brenda

                    Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.

                    Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.

                    I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL

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                    @brenda said in Third Wave Here?:

                    Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.

                    Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.

                    I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL

                    That is similar to my reaction to the first Moderna shot, and I had the virus

                    Second shot will be 4/1

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                    • MikM Mik

                      You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

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                      #14

                      @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                      You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                      How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

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                      • L Loki

                        @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                        You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                        How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

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                        Copper
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                        @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                        How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed?

                        Zero dollars and zero cents.

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                        • L Loki

                          @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                          You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                          How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                          @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                          You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                          How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

                          Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.

                          👍

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                            @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                            You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                            How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

                            Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.

                            👍

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                            Loki
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                            #17

                            @aqua-letifer said in Third Wave Here?:

                            @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                            @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                            You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                            How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

                            Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.

                            👍

                            Haha. I’m just saying when people see the bill there are going to be some pretty lively conversations about who pays. Lives saved will long be forgotten, because if that were the real issue we would have double the vaccinated by now. I’m patient, and I can almost write the future headlines.

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                              With the some 6T that’s already been thrown at this? Irrelevant.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                With the some 6T that’s already been thrown at this? Irrelevant.

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                                Loki
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                                #19

                                @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                                With the some 6T that’s already been thrown at this? Irrelevant.

                                Free education, free healthcare, reparations, environmental regulations are up next. That’s a lot of fiat money.

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                                • L Loki

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Third Wave Here?:

                                  @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                                  @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                                  You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                                  How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

                                  Yes, let's have more people die and come down with permanent complications because Loki doesn't like taxes.

                                  👍

                                  Haha. I’m just saying when people see the bill there are going to be some pretty lively conversations about who pays. Lives saved will long be forgotten, because if that were the real issue we would have double the vaccinated by now. I’m patient, and I can almost write the future headlines.

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                                  @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                                  Lives saved will long be forgotten, because if that were the real issue

                                  Well, it is for me, so I don't care what they raise it to.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    @brenda said in Third Wave Here?:

                                    Had my first injection of Moderna on Thursday afternoon, and today (Sunday) my temp has finally started to come down. It was elevated to around 100F, while taking Advil, until this morning, and now it's around 99.5, just enough to make a person feel wonky. Aches are not as bad, as long as I take some ibuprofen. Fatigue is finally somewhat less. Chest tightness is almost gone, too. These represent a milder version of symptoms I had in February of 2020.

                                    Several recent news articles have said those who had the virus will get a stronger reaction to the first dose, similar to what others will see at their second dose. It makes me think my mystery illness from Feb '20 really was COVID, as Jolly and others noted in a prior thread.

                                    I think you were right. Put a gold star on the calendar for yourself to note this. LOL

                                    That is similar to my reaction to the first Moderna shot, and I had the virus

                                    Second shot will be 4/1

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                                    brenda
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                                    @copper Copper, thank you for adding your input on this. I want to know what you experience with your second shot, too. I find it helpful to get this input.

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                                      @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                                      You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                                      How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

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                                      @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                                      @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                                      You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                                      How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

                                      It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.

                                      (mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                                        @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                                        You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                                        How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

                                        It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.

                                        (mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @taiwan_girl said in Third Wave Here?:

                                        @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                                        @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                                        You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                                        How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

                                        It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.

                                        (mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)

                                        There's a word for those people.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          @loki said in Third Wave Here?:

                                          @mik said in Third Wave Here?:

                                          You can't deny that infection rates are on the rise some places, enough to be worrisome. As much as I want everything to open back up, vaccination rates are not there yet.

                                          How much extra tax are you willing to pay to keep things closed? You will be funding this.

                                          It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.

                                          (mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)

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                                          Renauda
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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Third Wave Here?:

                                          It seems to me that in the US, the problem is is that the people are are "advocate" the most to open things up NOW, are the same people that are not willing to do the things necessary to allow that to happen.
                                          (mask wearing, social distancing, etc.)

                                          I assure you it is not just the US. Plenty of those people here as well.

                                          Elbows up!

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