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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Will Mr. Trump's advice cause the numbers to flip?

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    • MikM Mik

      Not in favor of the passport. Slippery slope.

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      Loki
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      @mik said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

      Not in favor of the passport. Slippery slope.

      I’m in favor of getting back to whatever full employment is and traveling and seeing loved ones and going to entertainment venues to feed the economy.

      Why on earth would you let those that refuse screw it up for the rest of the world?

      It borders on bat shit crazy.

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      • L Loki

        Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

        End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

        So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

        These polls are just political nonsense.

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        Jolly
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        #10

        @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

        Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

        End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

        So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

        These polls are just political nonsense.

        What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

          Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

          End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

          So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

          These polls are just political nonsense.

          What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

          RainmanR Offline
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          Rainman
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

          @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

          Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

          End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

          So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

          These polls are just political nonsense.

          What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

          We'll eat them.

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          • MikM Mik

            Not in favor of the passport. Slippery slope.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #12

            @mik said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

            Not in favor of the passport. Slippery slope.

            The slippery slope argument is occasionally used by those who oppose legislation intended to protect the population. Frequently, the actual motivation is something less innocent.

            If I spent my life listening to podcasts on all kinds of rubbish, I might use the term 'informal logical fallacy' to describe the method. Thankfully, I spend my spare time playing computer games, so you're spared that, or any use of Latin.

            I was only joking

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

              Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

              End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

              So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

              These polls are just political nonsense.

              What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

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              Loki
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

              @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

              Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

              End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

              So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

              These polls are just political nonsense.

              What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

              They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

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                AndyD
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                #14

                In honour of ex-president Trump's prophetic words exactly a year ago today:
                “I’ve always known this is a, this is a real, this is a pandemic … I’ve felt that it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”
                I'd just like to wish everyone a Happy Annivirusry

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                • L Loki

                  @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                  @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                  Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                  End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                  So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                  These polls are just political nonsense.

                  What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                  They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

                  MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                  @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                  @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                  Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                  End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                  So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                  These polls are just political nonsense.

                  What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                  They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

                  I don't think it will stand up to court challenges.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • L Loki

                    @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                    @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                    Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                    End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                    So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                    These polls are just political nonsense.

                    What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                    They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                    @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                    @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                    Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                    End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                    So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                    These polls are just political nonsense.

                    What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                    They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

                    Well that's my wife and my SIL, both who have had COVID and the first shot. TPTB can go get fucked.

                    Secondly, you do know that as it now stands, the COVID shot is looking more and more like a yearly event.
                    Hard to enforce compliance for that.

                    Lastly, have you seen the cards? I can fake that in thirty seconds.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                      @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                      @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                      Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                      End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                      So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                      These polls are just political nonsense.

                      What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                      They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

                      Well that's my wife and my SIL, both who have had COVID and the first shot. TPTB can go get fucked.

                      Secondly, you do know that as it now stands, the COVID shot is looking more and more like a yearly event.
                      Hard to enforce compliance for that.

                      Lastly, have you seen the cards? I can fake that in thirty seconds.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                      @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                      @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                      @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                      Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                      End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                      So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                      These polls are just political nonsense.

                      What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                      They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

                      Well that's my wife and my SIL, both who have had COVID and the first shot. TPTB can go get fucked.

                      Secondly, you do know that as it now stands, the COVID shot is looking more and more like a yearly event.
                      Hard to enforce compliance for that.

                      Lastly, have you seen the cards? I can fake that in thirty seconds.

                      If you have a better solution I am all ears.

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                      • L Loki

                        @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                        @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                        Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                        End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                        So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                        These polls are just political nonsense.

                        What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                        They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #18

                        @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                        @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                        @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                        Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                        End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                        So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                        These polls are just political nonsense.

                        What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                        They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

                        They could and did fly, go into restaurants, and into entertainment facilities in the worst days of December and November. There is not a single reason why they shouldn’t do so now. ESPECIALLY with vaccines in place that have a 100% success rate against serious cases. The risk they take is strictly to themselves and others that choose not to be vaccinated.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                          @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                          @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                          Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                          End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                          So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                          These polls are just political nonsense.

                          What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                          They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

                          They could and did fly, go into restaurants, and into entertainment facilities in the worst days of December and November. There is not a single reason why they shouldn’t do so now. ESPECIALLY with vaccines in place that have a 100% success rate against serious cases. The risk they take is strictly to themselves and others that choose not to be vaccinated.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on last edited by Loki
                          #19

                          @lufins-dad said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                          @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                          @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                          @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                          Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                          End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                          So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                          These polls are just political nonsense.

                          What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                          They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

                          They could and did fly, go into restaurants, and into entertainment facilities in the worst days of December and November. There is not a single reason why they shouldn’t do so now. ESPECIALLY with vaccines in place that have a 100% success rate against serious cases. The risk they take is strictly to themselves and others that choose not to be vaccinated.

                          It’s tough to enable stupid. 100’s of millions of people have been vaccinated and we have to accommodate folks with a mental problem. Jesus.

                          But I’ve beaten my point to a pulp. I can’t abide anti-vaxxers who believe their rights supersede societal needs.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            Anti-vaxers don't matter any more.

                            I don't care if someone doesn't want the vaccine, it's just too bad for them.

                            I had the virus and I had the vaccine. Nobody could give me covid-19 now if they tried.

                            Let them do whatever they want, I don't care, it is none of my business anyway.

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                              Mik
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                              #21

                              I think the real avenue to greater compliance is in the workplace. If you want to come to work you have to be vaccinated. Restaurants and flights wont do it, nor will a passport. Hell, we couldn't get a lot of people to wear masks and not socialize. What makes us think we can make them use and enforce a passport?

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                Anti-vaxers don't matter any more.

                                I don't care if someone doesn't want the vaccine, it's just too bad for them.

                                I had the virus and I had the vaccine. Nobody could give me covid-19 now if they tried.

                                Let them do whatever they want, I don't care, it is none of my business anyway.

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                                George K
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                                #22

                                @copper said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                                Nobody could give me covid-19 now if they tried.

                                At least for the next few weeks, months, etc., until your immunity wears off (which it might do).

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by Copper
                                  #23

                                  I know, nobody is guaranteeing anything.

                                  I'd just like to get to the point where we can let it go.

                                  If we have vaccine passports and crusades against anti-vaxers, this thing won't end during our lifetimes.

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #24

                                    Agreed.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      #25

                                      Bigger issue in my mind are the maybes. Let them come to the decision on their own and most will. Try to force the issue and most won’t.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • L Loki

                                        @lufins-dad said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                                        @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                                        @jolly said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                                        @loki said in Trump tells supporters to get vaccinated:

                                        Vaccine passport takes care of everything. You want to stay home, it’s your choice.

                                        End the lockdown for people who have vaccines.

                                        So simple and it targets lives and livelihoods.

                                        These polls are just political nonsense.

                                        What about the people who cannot take the vaccine or have had a very serious reaction to the first dose?

                                        They can’t fly on a plane, go to a restaurant or entertainment venue until we reach herd immunity. It’s the danger they pose to others and our economy. I feel less sorry for them than their danger.

                                        They could and did fly, go into restaurants, and into entertainment facilities in the worst days of December and November. There is not a single reason why they shouldn’t do so now. ESPECIALLY with vaccines in place that have a 100% success rate against serious cases. The risk they take is strictly to themselves and others that choose not to be vaccinated.

                                        It’s tough to enable stupid. 100’s of millions of people have been vaccinated and we have to accommodate folks with a mental problem. Jesus.

                                        But I’ve beaten my point to a pulp. I can’t abide anti-vaxxers who believe their rights supersede societal needs.

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                                        AndyD
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #26

                                        "...who belive their rights supersede societal needs"

                                        Exactly, and like Copper I too want to let it go. Move on, travel freely. Bloody hell, just to buy something at a local charity shop would be nice.
                                        Thing is we have no control over whether Covid mutates and becomes a deadly killer of all and makes the vaccinations useless. So it might be better we aim for real control over Covid in our society as a whole right now?

                                        I feel the same regarding democratic societal needs when it comes to the greedy person who hides behind their company & doesn't pay taxes, or the egotist who thinks they can riot in protest.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          #27

                                          A sizeable number of people think that being told they have to wear a mask is actual tyranny. Maybe just line them up against a wall. At the very least, they'd get some perspective.

                                          I was only joking

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