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CDC -the data is in. Masks work

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  • L Offline
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    Loki
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    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm?s_cid=mm7010e3_w

    And dining indoors was more deadly.

    Not sure if I am reading the table correctly in the decline of deaths with masks is 2% and increase in deaths with indoor dining is 3%?

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      Copper
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      It's kind of a nit pick, but

      Places that allowed indoor dining were more deadly - allowed it, not did it.

      Where masks were required there were fewer deaths, required, not worn

      ![alt text](47e78f94-6739-4333-8b8b-fd2d8e0c6967-image.png image url)

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        It's kind of a nit pick, but

        Places that allowed indoor dining were more deadly - allowed it, not did it.

        Where masks were required there were fewer deaths, required, not worn

        ![alt text](47e78f94-6739-4333-8b8b-fd2d8e0c6967-image.png image url)

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        Loki
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        And even more CDC data is out

        https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

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        • L Loki

          And even more CDC data is out

          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

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          @loki said in CDC -the data is in. Masks work:

          And even more CDC data is out

          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

          Fascinating. I wonder what the pathophysiology of that is.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            40% of Americans are obese, 50% of the hospitalized were.

            71% of Americans are overweight, 78% of people hospitalized were.

            Why would anybody be surprised by these statistics?

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              40% of Americans are obese, 50% of the hospitalized were.

              71% of Americans are overweight, 78% of people hospitalized were.

              Why would anybody be surprised by these statistics?

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              George K
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              @doctor-phibes well, when you put it like that....

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                My school started back in session at the very end of January--just in time for a nasty weather change. We keep the windows open all day, regardless of the weather, and although we try to eat outside whenever possible, there have been some days that were just too cold (or the ground had snow/ice).

                So, on some days we eat indoors, 10 kids and 1 teacher to a room. Masks off.

                It´s supposed to be silent lunch but, well, they are goofy middle schoolers who haven´t been able to chat with their peers for a year.

                Guess who´s glad to be vaccinated :woman-raising-hand:

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                • George KG George K

                  @doctor-phibes well, when you put it like that....

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                  @george-k said in CDC -the data is in. Masks work:

                  @doctor-phibes well, when you put it like that....

                  Also, I would assume that obesity and weight problems become more prevalent once people get older, so the percentage of older people who are overweight will be higher than these numbers. It's just possible that age is the factor, not obesity.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @george-k said in CDC -the data is in. Masks work:

                    @doctor-phibes well, when you put it like that....

                    Also, I would assume that obesity and weight problems become more prevalent once people get older, so the percentage of older people who are overweight will be higher than these numbers. It's just possible that age is the factor, not obesity.

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                    @doctor-phibes said in CDC -the data is in. Masks work:

                    I would assume that obesity and weight problems become more prevalent once people get older

                    Not my experience.

                    https://www.statista.com/statistics/244223/obesity-prevalence-among-adults-in-the-us-by-gender-and-age/

                    Obesity seems to be pretty age-agnostic:

                    Screen Shot 2021-03-08 at 7.13.37 PM.png

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @doctor-phibes well, when you put it like that....

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                      Loki
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                      @george-k said in CDC -the data is in. Masks work:

                      @doctor-phibes well, when you put it like that....

                      😂

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                      • George KG George K

                        @doctor-phibes said in CDC -the data is in. Masks work:

                        I would assume that obesity and weight problems become more prevalent once people get older

                        Not my experience.

                        https://www.statista.com/statistics/244223/obesity-prevalence-among-adults-in-the-us-by-gender-and-age/

                        Obesity seems to be pretty age-agnostic:

                        Screen Shot 2021-03-08 at 7.13.37 PM.png

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        @george-k said in CDC -the data is in. Masks work:

                        Not my experience.
                        https://www.statista.com/statistics/244223/obesity-prevalence-among-adults-in-the-us-by-gender-and-age/
                        Obesity seems to be pretty age-agnostic:

                        OK, fair enough. So obesity is a factor, but possibly it's not as important as it might first appear. Since there is going to be a correlation between overall health and weight, could it just be that those who are less healthy are more likely to become seriously ill?

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @george-k said in CDC -the data is in. Masks work:

                          Not my experience.
                          https://www.statista.com/statistics/244223/obesity-prevalence-among-adults-in-the-us-by-gender-and-age/
                          Obesity seems to be pretty age-agnostic:

                          OK, fair enough. So obesity is a factor, but possibly it's not as important as it might first appear. Since there is going to be a correlation between overall health and weight, could it just be that those who are less healthy are more likely to become seriously ill?

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                          George K
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                          @doctor-phibes said in CDC -the data is in. Masks work:

                          Since there is going to be a correlation between overall health and weight, could it just be that those who are less healthy are more likely to become seriously ill?

                          Yeah, I'll buy that.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            @Doctor-Phibes beat me to the stats, 78% hospitalization is only slightly higher than the whole.

                            However, as @George-K has pointed out in the past, this is a vascular disease which would be the hardest on overweight people with vascular issues and diabetics. That’s what we saw. There are aberrations, but that’s to be expected.

                            The Brad

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