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  • LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    Sorry, but I do not have any sympathy. She was illegally breaking into the Capitol for unknown purposes.

    The Brad

    RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      Are there guidelines, rules, requirements for the use of deadly force by the Capitol Police?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Offline
        Aqua LetiferA Offline
        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        For some reason, the name of the office who shot her

        Ouch.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          For some reason, the name of the office who shot her

          Ouch.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

          For some reason, the name of the office who shot her

          Ouch.

          That's been talked about here for a while. @jon-nyc pointed out that other people shot by the Secret Service have not had the names of the shooter revealed.

          I simply want to know what the protocol/guidelines are. Presumably there's a departmental policy regarding that.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
            George KG Offline
            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            Here is the Chicago Police Dept policy on the use of deadly force:

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              This wasn’t a traffic stop. The officer was protecting Congress from a violent mob.

              He did the Lord’s work stopping that mob. The family should invite the officer to the funeral and give him an apology and a hug.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • L Offline
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                Loki
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                It was not a spontaneous riot for several of the mob. Also for the police officers it must have been very real. It’s not just physical property they are protecting. Could you imagine yourself as an officer in real time evaluating the situation and having no command structure providing orders?

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                • George KG George K

                  @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                  For some reason, the name of the office who shot her

                  Ouch.

                  That's been talked about here for a while. @jon-nyc pointed out that other people shot by the Secret Service have not had the names of the shooter revealed.

                  I simply want to know what the protocol/guidelines are. Presumably there's a departmental policy regarding that.

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @george-k said in The Statement:

                  @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                  For some reason, the name of the office who shot her

                  Ouch.

                  That's been talked about here for a while. @jon-nyc pointed out that other people shot by the Secret Service have not had the names of the shooter revealed.

                  I simply want to know what the protocol/guidelines are. Presumably there's a departmental policy regarding that.

                  I was just pointing out the glaring grammar error.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    This wasn’t a traffic stop. The officer was protecting Congress from a violent mob.

                    He did the Lord’s work stopping that mob. The family should invite the officer to the funeral and give him an apology and a hug.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    @jon-nyc said in The Statement:

                    This wasn’t a traffic stop. The officer was protecting Congress from a violent mob.

                    He did the Lord’s work stopping that mob. The family should invite the officer to the funeral and give him an apology and a hug.

                    Then why didn't the other officers standing almost next to her, shoot her?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #11

                      Seems like an unrelated question but you’d have to ask them. Other cops that were standing among the invaders are on record saying they were afraid of being outgunned if they used their weapons, since the were overwhelm3d numerically.

                      The hero that stopped the mob was behind a barricade, along with the people it was his duty to protect.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Sorry, but I do not have any sympathy. She was illegally breaking into the Capitol for unknown purposes.

                        RenaudaR Offline
                        RenaudaR Offline
                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        @lufins-dad said in The Statement:

                        Sorry, but I do not have any sympathy. She was illegally breaking into the Capitol for unknown purposes.

                        That is my feeling as well. Just what was her purpose of being there? Surely she knew it was unlawful.

                        Elbows up!

                        taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @lufins-dad said in The Statement:

                          Sorry, but I do not have any sympathy. She was illegally breaking into the Capitol for unknown purposes.

                          That is my feeling as well. Just what was her purpose of being there? Surely she knew it was unlawful.

                          taiwan_girlT Offline
                          taiwan_girlT Offline
                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          @renauda said in The Statement:

                          @lufins-dad said in The Statement:

                          Sorry, but I do not have any sympathy. She was illegally breaking into the Capitol for unknown purposes.

                          That is my feeling as well. Just what was her purpose of being there? Surely she knew it was unlawful.

                          I agree.

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                          • CopperC Offline
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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #14

                            If it was unlawful to be in the Capitol, it shouldn't have been.

                            If there is one building where a citizen should be able to enter, it is that one.

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                            • RenaudaR Offline
                              RenaudaR Offline
                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #15

                              Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                              Elbows up!

                              JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                @renauda said in The Statement:

                                Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                Worth killing her for it?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @renauda said in The Statement:

                                  Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                  Worth killing her for it?

                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  @jolly said in The Statement:

                                  @renauda said in The Statement:

                                  Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                  Worth killing her for it?

                                  Hell yeah. Choot 'er twice.

                                  Please love yourself.

                                  JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @jolly said in The Statement:

                                    @renauda said in The Statement:

                                    Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                    Worth killing her for it?

                                    Hell yeah. Choot 'er twice.

                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                                    @jolly said in The Statement:

                                    @renauda said in The Statement:

                                    Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                    Worth killing her for it?

                                    Hell yeah. Choot 'er twice.

                                    As long as we apply the same standard in Portland...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                    Aqua LetiferA RenaudaR 2 Replies Last reply
                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                                      @jolly said in The Statement:

                                      @renauda said in The Statement:

                                      Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                      Worth killing her for it?

                                      Hell yeah. Choot 'er twice.

                                      As long as we apply the same standard in Portland...

                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      @jolly said in The Statement:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                                      @jolly said in The Statement:

                                      @renauda said in The Statement:

                                      Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                      Worth killing her for it?

                                      Hell yeah. Choot 'er twice.

                                      As long as we apply the same standard in Portland...

                                      Fine by me.

                                      Please love yourself.

                                      RainmanR 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        @jolly said in The Statement:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                                        @jolly said in The Statement:

                                        @renauda said in The Statement:

                                        Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                        Worth killing her for it?

                                        Hell yeah. Choot 'er twice.

                                        As long as we apply the same standard in Portland...

                                        Fine by me.

                                        RainmanR Offline
                                        RainmanR Offline
                                        Rainman
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #20

                                        @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                                        @jolly said in The Statement:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                                        @jolly said in The Statement:

                                        @renauda said in The Statement:

                                        Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                        Worth killing her for it?

                                        Hell yeah. Choot 'er twice.

                                        As long as we apply the same standard in Portland...

                                        Fine by me.

                                        Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                                          @jolly said in The Statement:

                                          @renauda said in The Statement:

                                          Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                          Worth killing her for it?

                                          Hell yeah. Choot 'er twice.

                                          As long as we apply the same standard in Portland...

                                          RenaudaR Offline
                                          RenaudaR Offline
                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                          #21

                                          @jolly said in The Statement:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in The Statement:

                                          @jolly said in The Statement:

                                          @renauda said in The Statement:

                                          Being in the Capitol is not at question, being present in the Capitol as an active participant in mob violence on 6 January as Ms Babbitt was, is unlawful and therefore very much in question.

                                          Worth killing her for it?

                                          Hell yeah. Choot 'er twice.

                                          As long as we apply the same standard in Portland...

                                          Absolutely not. The Portland rabble deserves nothing less than a whiff or two of grapeshot.

                                          Elbows up!

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