SD Cards
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Telk you what I can do...If the cloud goes away tomorrow and takes the banks with it, I can still keep my family warm, safe and fed.
Can you do the same?
Sure. It reads like you also put your money in the banks, which is fine.
Notice we haven't even get into what it means to "own" stocks and bonds yet. Let me know when you discuss the meaning of "ownership" when it comes to stocks and bonds.
Yeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.
Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 05:09 last edited byYeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.
OK, from that statement I take it you do not take physical possession of stock and bond certificates. And, news flash, no one has all their money in the bank anyway. Even the most ardent advocates for “cashless society” keep a few bucks at home to tip the delivery guy and for emergencies. So your statement about not putting all your money in the bank is rather vacuous.
Back to the stock ownership question. You gotta think deeper than “paper shares”. Even if you physically own the stock and bond certificates, what does “ownership” mean when the “stock” merely represents fractions of some collections of assets none of which you possess physically, what does “ownership” mean when the “bond” merely represent I.O.U.s?
Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
Sure.
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wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 09:18 last edited by
How did we get from "What are the advantages of SD cards"? to "Can you still feed your family if the shit hits the fan"?
The miracle of TNCR.
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Yeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.
OK, from that statement I take it you do not take physical possession of stock and bond certificates. And, news flash, no one has all their money in the bank anyway. Even the most ardent advocates for “cashless society” keep a few bucks at home to tip the delivery guy and for emergencies. So your statement about not putting all your money in the bank is rather vacuous.
Back to the stock ownership question. You gotta think deeper than “paper shares”. Even if you physically own the stock and bond certificates, what does “ownership” mean when the “stock” merely represents fractions of some collections of assets none of which you possess physically, what does “ownership” mean when the “bond” merely represent I.O.U.s?
Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
Sure.
wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 12:32 last edited byYeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.
OK, from that statement I take it you do not take physical possession of stock and bond certificates. And, news flash, no one has all their money in the bank anyway. Even the most ardent advocates for “cashless society” keep a few bucks at home to tip the delivery guy and for emergencies. So your statement about not putting all your money in the bank is rather vacuous.
Back to the stock ownership question. You gotta think deeper than “paper shares”. Even if you physically own the stock and bond certificates, what does “ownership” mean when the “stock” merely represents fractions of some collections of assets none of which you possess physically, what does “ownership” mean when the “bond” merely represent I.O.U.s?
Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
Sure.
How?
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How did we get from "What are the advantages of SD cards"? to "Can you still feed your family if the shit hits the fan"?
The miracle of TNCR.
wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 17:24 last edited byHow did we get from "What are the advantages of SD cards"? to "Can you still feed your family if the shit hits the fan"?
The miracle of TNCR.
One of the things I really like about this forum.
Opening a thread is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to read!! 555
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 00:34 last edited by
Another thing that challenges the traditional notion of “ownership”:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/arts/design/nft-auction-christies-beeple.html
Digital items digitally, cryptographically signed as having been sold and “belonging” to someone.
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@Jolly Yes, the definition of ownership becomes murkier once you are detached from physical possession. Same problem with the money you put in the bank. It comes down to faith in the system, that the cloud companies will keep honoring your “ownership” of “your” data, that the banks will keep honoring your “ownership” of “your” money.
Legislatively the states have many good laws to keep the bank honoring your ownership of your money. The legal framework for data ownership still need a lot of work.
In the meantime, the mantra for folks who have the technical proficiency to understand the issue is to keep local copies and backup, backup, backup.
I have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:23 last edited byI have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
It's the best backup system available today. Just keep your stuff copied locally and there's no ownership problem.
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:30 last edited by
@aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:
Just keep your stuff copied locally
I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.
Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.
No, wait...two external hard drive.
Not that I'm paranoid.
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@aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:
Just keep your stuff copied locally
I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.
Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.
No, wait...two external hard drive.
Not that I'm paranoid.
wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:31 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:
Just keep your stuff copied locally
I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.
Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.
No, wait...two external hard drive.
Not that I'm paranoid.
My work crap is on Adobe cloud + an external.
Personal stuff is on iCloud + external.
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:34 last edited by George K 3 Dec 2021, 01:39
The "cloud" is certainly convenient. You can access whatever you want, as long as 1) the cloud is "up" and 2) you have (fast) internet access.
If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:36 last edited by
Me too.
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:41 last edited by
I take it for granted after following the set up. I like my music, my podcasts, my movies and shows from the cloud too. Cloud is always the easiest and best way to get at it.
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The "cloud" is certainly convenient. You can access whatever you want, as long as 1) the cloud is "up" and 2) you have (fast) internet access.
If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.
wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:45 last edited byIf the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.
Yeah, but if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
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@aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:
Just keep your stuff copied locally
I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.
Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.
No, wait...two external hard drive.
Not that I'm paranoid.
My work crap is on Adobe cloud + an external.
Personal stuff is on iCloud + external.
Photos are Adobe + external.wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:46 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:
My work crap is on Adobe cloud + an external.
Personal stuff is on iCloud + external.
Photos are Adobe + external.If the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:46 last edited by
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:47 last edited by
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 05:07 last edited by
I don't have any data I couldn't easily live without.
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 08:33 last edited by
Why bother with backups? We all die soon anyway.
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 12:32 last edited by
Why bother with backups? We all die soon anyway.
Are you kidding me?? All my family and friends will be fighting over access and biographers will be screaming over access and Hollywood screenwriters will want all that content.
Proof of my existence is how I have been spending my whole life! Others may not be so interested now but just wait until I die. Boy will they be sorry, the least I can do is forgive them by having my stuff available.
