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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @jolly said in SD Cards:

    Yeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.

    OK, from that statement I take it you do not take physical possession of stock and bond certificates. And, news flash, no one has all their money in the bank anyway. Even the most ardent advocates for “cashless society” keep a few bucks at home to tip the delivery guy and for emergencies. So your statement about not putting all your money in the bank is rather vacuous.

    Back to the stock ownership question. You gotta think deeper than “paper shares”. Even if you physically own the stock and bond certificates, what does “ownership” mean when the “stock” merely represents fractions of some collections of assets none of which you possess physically, what does “ownership” mean when the “bond” merely represent I.O.U.s?

    Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?

    Sure.

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    Jolly
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    @axtremus said in SD Cards:

    @jolly said in SD Cards:

    Yeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.

    OK, from that statement I take it you do not take physical possession of stock and bond certificates. And, news flash, no one has all their money in the bank anyway. Even the most ardent advocates for “cashless society” keep a few bucks at home to tip the delivery guy and for emergencies. So your statement about not putting all your money in the bank is rather vacuous.

    Back to the stock ownership question. You gotta think deeper than “paper shares”. Even if you physically own the stock and bond certificates, what does “ownership” mean when the “stock” merely represents fractions of some collections of assets none of which you possess physically, what does “ownership” mean when the “bond” merely represent I.O.U.s?

    Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?

    Sure.

    How?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • KlausK Klaus

      How did we get from "What are the advantages of SD cards"? to "Can you still feed your family if the shit hits the fan"?

      The miracle of TNCR.

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      taiwan_girl
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      #24

      @klaus said in SD Cards:

      How did we get from "What are the advantages of SD cards"? to "Can you still feed your family if the shit hits the fan"?

      The miracle of TNCR.

      One of the things I really like about this forum.

      Opening a thread is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to read!! 555

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      • AxtremusA Away
        AxtremusA Away
        Axtremus
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        #25

        Another thing that challenges the traditional notion of “ownership”:

        https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/arts/design/nft-auction-christies-beeple.html

        Digital items digitally, cryptographically signed as having been sold and “belonging” to someone.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @axtremus said in SD Cards:

          @Jolly Yes, the definition of ownership becomes murkier once you are detached from physical possession. Same problem with the money you put in the bank. It comes down to faith in the system, that the cloud companies will keep honoring your “ownership” of “your” data, that the banks will keep honoring your “ownership” of “your” money.

          Legislatively the states have many good laws to keep the bank honoring your ownership of your money. The legal framework for data ownership still need a lot of work.

          In the meantime, the mantra for folks who have the technical proficiency to understand the issue is to keep local copies and backup, backup, backup.

          I have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #26

          @jolly said in SD Cards:

          I have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.

          It's the best backup system available today. Just keep your stuff copied locally and there's no ownership problem.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @jolly said in SD Cards:

            I have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.

            It's the best backup system available today. Just keep your stuff copied locally and there's no ownership problem.

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            George K
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            @aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:

            Just keep your stuff copied locally

            I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.

            Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.

            No, wait...two external hard drive.

            Not that I'm paranoid.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:

              Just keep your stuff copied locally

              I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.

              Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.

              No, wait...two external hard drive.

              Not that I'm paranoid.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #28

              @george-k said in SD Cards:

              @aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:

              Just keep your stuff copied locally

              I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.

              Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.

              No, wait...two external hard drive.

              Not that I'm paranoid.

              😄

              My work crap is on Adobe cloud + an external.
              Personal stuff is on iCloud + external.
              Photos are Adobe + external.

              Please love yourself.

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #29

                The "cloud" is certainly convenient. You can access whatever you want, as long as 1) the cloud is "up" and 2) you have (fast) internet access.

                If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #30

                  Me too.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Loki
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                    #31

                    I take it for granted after following the set up. I like my music, my podcasts, my movies and shows from the cloud too. Cloud is always the easiest and best way to get at it.

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                    • George KG George K

                      The "cloud" is certainly convenient. You can access whatever you want, as long as 1) the cloud is "up" and 2) you have (fast) internet access.

                      If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #32

                      @george-k said in SD Cards:

                      If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.

                      Yeah, but if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @george-k said in SD Cards:

                        @aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:

                        Just keep your stuff copied locally

                        I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.

                        Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.

                        No, wait...two external hard drive.

                        Not that I'm paranoid.

                        😄

                        My work crap is on Adobe cloud + an external.
                        Personal stuff is on iCloud + external.
                        Photos are Adobe + external.

                        AxtremusA Away
                        AxtremusA Away
                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #33

                        @aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:

                        My work crap is on Adobe cloud + an external.
                        Personal stuff is on iCloud + external.
                        Photos are Adobe + external.

                        If the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @george-k said in SD Cards:

                          If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.

                          Yeah, but if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #34

                          @axtremus said in SD Cards:

                          @george-k said in SD Cards:

                          If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.

                          Yeah, but if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?

                          Noticed you never said how you could do it...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @george-k said in SD Cards:

                            If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.

                            Yeah, but if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?

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                            George K
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                            @axtremus said in SD Cards:

                            @george-k said in SD Cards:

                            If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.

                            Yeah, but if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #36

                              I don't have any data I couldn't easily live without.

                              I was only joking

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                                Klaus
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                                #37

                                Why bother with backups? We all die soon anyway.

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                                • KlausK Klaus

                                  Why bother with backups? We all die soon anyway.

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                                  Loki
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                                  @klaus said in SD Cards:

                                  Why bother with backups? We all die soon anyway.

                                  Are you kidding me?? All my family and friends will be fighting over access and biographers will be screaming over access and Hollywood screenwriters will want all that content.

                                  Proof of my existence is how I have been spending my whole life! Others may not be so interested now but just wait until I die. Boy will they be sorry, the least I can do is forgive them by having my stuff available.

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