UBI experiments and results

[Axtremus]

https://www.businessinsider.com/stockton-basic-income-experiment-success-employment-wellbeing-2021-3

“In Stockton, California, 125 residents got $500 per month, no strings attached, for two years.
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After one year, full-time employment had increased in the group, and depression and anxiety decreased.
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[jon-nyc]

I’d want to know:

1. were the success factors decided in advance of the experiment? Or were these just two metrics that had improved so they’re running with them?

2. Was there a control group?

[Axtremus]

The article might call it a 'success,' but I would not reach for that label just yet.

UBI is still new that there is not much of a theoretical or modeling framework to go with it, not enough to definitively nail down criteria for success or failure yet.

At this point I'm OK with just observations -- which metrics improved for whom, which other metrics deteriorated for whom, etc.

One article on one experiment is not going to give a comprehensive picture, and it's given that each article will have its bias. My intention is to keep collecting more articles on more UBI experiments and see if some pattern emerge.

[Loki]

I wonder how weekly therapist visits would work or perhaps Prozac vs the weekly fancy meal.

Maybe Prozac in the water.

[Klaus]

@jon-nyc said in UBI experiments and results:

I’d want to know:

1. were the success factors decided in advance of the experiment? Or were these just two metrics that had improved so they’re running with them?

2. Was there a control group?

Indeed. Without a control group, a test like that is meaningless.

[Loki]

The mayor lost re-election this past November. Lol

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in UBI experiments and results:

I’d want to know:

1. were the success factors decided in advance of the experiment? Or were these just two metrics that had improved so they’re running with them?

2. Was there a control group?

Exactly my thoughts...

[Loki]

@lufins-dad said in UBI experiments and results:

@jon-nyc said in UBI experiments and results:

I’d want to know:

1. were the success factors decided in advance of the experiment? Or were these just two metrics that had improved so they’re running with them?

2. Was there a control group?

Exactly my thoughts...

The article does discuss the control group.

[Kincaid]

"Full-time employment among basic-income recipients rose to 40% from 28% during the program's first year. In the control group, full-time employment increased as well, though less dramatically: to 37% from 32%."

[Jolly]

@loki said in UBI experiments and results:

The mayor lost re-election this past November. Lol

Well, there's your control....