China crushes democracy
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@george-k said in China crushes democracy:
As @Rainman says, we know a lot about the investments of the Biden offspring into China.
Governments and corporations throughout the Western world have spent the last 40 years investing time, resources and capital into the PRC. It is futile to single out any one person or family for having business ties ad investments in the PRC. As I already pointed out we just assumed that Chinese economic reform would lead directly to political liberalisation. It it didn't and in fact, because if its economic success, in the past decade the PRC grew to become an aggressive player not only regionally, but also on the world stage. Biden too will have to look to a policy of containment of the PRC. He has no choice.
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@taiwan_girl said in China crushes democracy:
@renauda Great post, but I would say that mainland china is not communist and is in fact, moved away from communism under Chairman Deng and has move more towards something like fascist.
If I am jailed and executed, does it matter if it was a communist government instead of a fascist? Rightwing socialist or, leftwing communist, dead is dead.
The very poor in mainland China, would they go "whoppie!!" if someone explained to them that the country was now more fascist and moving away from communism?I guess I'm having a knee-jerk reaction to TG's post. As Renauda points out, the missing ingredient in communism is always the, "well, if the entire world were communist, then it would work."
I need to check on Venezuela, see how happy the people are now, as the same thugs continue in power. Bus driver, painter, stogie and drinking a shot of Vodka throughout the day, there are and were leaders, and then Orange Man Bad because shut up and no discussion allowed, period.
Did Renauda mention that Stalin actually didn't drink? Maybe it was someone else. Imagine supporting stupid gosplan edicts sober.
"Increase Paper Production!" Yessir, we shipped 100 tons more.
Good comrades.Truth was, the workers simply increased the weight of the individual pages and tadaa: compliance and a reward. They did the same thing with aluminum cans. Increased production by making thicker cans, since production was based upon weight.
And more stories at your favorite former soviet republic book stores, some in English. Stepping over frozed bodies in Siberia was a nice touch for the collective experience, I'm sure. Were the guards fascists or communists? OK now, I'm starting to rant, need to end. I wish to God we'd learn something, by studying the horrors of the 20th century instead of the beyond stupid, "but this time, it will work, because we're modern, progressive, blah blah nonsense." How many bodies next time.
PS - my mom's brother was allowed to live, while sentenced to 8 years in Siberia. All his Estonian male compatriots died, worked to death. The reason he was allowed to live, is he could perform higher maths, and was the only one that could calculate how much was being mined based upon what was bought to the surface. Then he did the Frederick Taylor dance, to increase production and save the butts of the overlords at the mine.
@rainman said in China crushes democracy:
Did Renauda mention that Stalin actually didn't drink? Maybe it was someone else.
No it definitely was not me. Being Georgian, Stalin enjoyed his wine, although he was by no means anything close to a drunk. His preferred wine was a semi sweet red called Kindzmarauli. He also apparently had a decent tenor singing voice - he obtained it as a child attending Orthodox seminary when he was studying for the priesthood.
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@renauda Always enjoy your posts and learn something from them always! Thanks!
@taiwan_girl said in China crushes democracy:
@renauda Always enjoy your posts and learn something from them always! Thanks!
Agreed. Renauda is my TNCR go-to guy in global matters.
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There's a book, The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower
From the Amazon writeup: "For more than forty years, the United States has played an indispensable role helping the Chinese government build a booming economy, develop its scientific and military capabilities, and take its place on the world stage, in the belief that China's rise will bring us cooperation, diplomacy, and free trade. But what if the "China Dream" is to replace us, just as America replaced the British Empire, without firing a shot?
"Based on interviews with Chinese defectors and newly declassified, previously undisclosed national security documents, The Hundred-Year Marathon reveals China's secret strategy to supplant the United States as the world's dominant power, and to do so by 2049, the one-hundredth anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic. Michael Pillsbury,
a fluent Mandarin speaker who has served in senior national security positions in the U.S. government since the days of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger, draws on his decades of contact with the "hawks" in China's military and intelligence agencies 
and translates their documents, speeches, and books to show how the teachings of traditional Chinese statecraft underpin their actions. He offers an inside look at how the Chinese really view America and its leaders – as barbarians who will be the architects of their own demise."Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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There's a book, The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower
From the Amazon writeup: "For more than forty years, the United States has played an indispensable role helping the Chinese government build a booming economy, develop its scientific and military capabilities, and take its place on the world stage, in the belief that China's rise will bring us cooperation, diplomacy, and free trade. But what if the "China Dream" is to replace us, just as America replaced the British Empire, without firing a shot?
"Based on interviews with Chinese defectors and newly declassified, previously undisclosed national security documents, The Hundred-Year Marathon reveals China's secret strategy to supplant the United States as the world's dominant power, and to do so by 2049, the one-hundredth anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic. Michael Pillsbury,
a fluent Mandarin speaker who has served in senior national security positions in the U.S. government since the days of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger, draws on his decades of contact with the "hawks" in China's military and intelligence agencies and translates their documents, speeches, and books to show how the teachings of traditional Chinese statecraft underpin their actions. He offers an inside look at how the Chinese really view America and its leaders – as barbarians who will be the architects of their own demise."@catseye3 said in China crushes democracy:
The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower
I am aware of that book as it was highly recommended a couple of years ago to me by my former Reservist RSS officer with whom I have kept in touch with since the early 1980's. Since then a few other friends and acquaintances who have now retired from federal departments dealing with various foreign policy issues have also recommended it.
It has been on my to read list for some time now.
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@renauda said in China crushes democracy:
Gorbachev
Renauda, thanks for taking the time to post such informative and deep perspectives. I read your expertise slowly, to absorb as much as possible.
If you have the time, I would enjoy asking you about Gorbachev. How would you evaluate him? And Reagan. The two go hand in hand in some respects of the era, no? Easy to say "good guy / good guy" at least compared to ruthless dictators of the past.
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@catseye3 said in China crushes democracy:
The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower
I am aware of that book as it was highly recommended a couple of years ago to me by my former Reservist RSS officer with whom I have kept in touch with since the early 1980's. Since then a few other friends and acquaintances who have now retired from federal departments dealing with various foreign policy issues have also recommended it.
It has been on my to read list for some time now.
@renauda said in China crushes democracy:
@catseye3 said in China crushes democracy:
The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower
I am aware of that book as it was highly recommended a couple of years ago to me by my former Reservist RSS officer with whom I have kept in touch with since the early 1980's. Since then a few other friends and acquaintances who have now retired from federal departments dealing with various foreign policy issues have also recommended it.
It has been on my to read list for some time now.
Just reserved at the library for pick up tomorrow. I think the book was mentioned here before but I couldn’t remember the name. Thanks!
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@renauda said in China crushes democracy:
Gorbachev
Renauda, thanks for taking the time to post such informative and deep perspectives. I read your expertise slowly, to absorb as much as possible.
If you have the time, I would enjoy asking you about Gorbachev. How would you evaluate him? And Reagan. The two go hand in hand in some respects of the era, no? Easy to say "good guy / good guy" at least compared to ruthless dictators of the past.
@rainman said in China crushes democracy:
I would enjoy asking you about Gorbachev. How would you evaluate him? And Reagan. The two go hand in hand in some respects of the era, no? Easy to say
No deep perspective, but a story I remember reading about Premier Gorbachev and President Reagan. They were having a top level meeting in Iceland.
One of the reporters descried the scene after the two people arrived at the airport.
First, President Reagan (or Premier Gorbachev) left the airport. Many cars, limousines, police lights flashing etc.
Then Premier Gorbachev (or President Reagan) left the airport. Many cars, limousines, police lights flashing, etc.
Finally came the Primer Minister of Iceland. Driving his pickup truck by himself.
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