Et tu, Andrew?
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So Cuomo is not going to lose his job for decisions that killed tens of thousands of nursing home residents and then covering it up, but he is going to lose his job for making ridiculous passes at women?
Don’t get me wrong, he is an asshole and treated these women poorly and this behavior shouldn’t be tolerated, but there is a bit of a disconnect here.
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Still waiting for Gov. Cuomo to agree to the Kavanaugh standard for determining guilt. But, that's different, of course.
A sixth woman has leveled allegations of sexually inappropriate conduct against Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, accusing him of touching her without consent late last year during an encounter at the governor's mansion, the Times Union has confirmed.
The alleged incident took place after the woman, a member of the governor's Executive Chamber staff, had been summoned to the mansion to assist the governor with a work-related matter. The woman's supervisors recently became aware of the allegation and alerted the governor's counsel of it on Monday.
An official close to the matter on Tuesday confirmed to the Times Union that the new allegation had been made, although Cuomo, during a news conference hours later, denied knowledge of it.
In response to detailed questions about the handling of the woman's allegations by the governor's office, Beth Garvey, acting counsel to the governor, said: "All allegations that we learn of directly or indirectly are going promptly to the investigators appointed by the attorney general."
Cuomo, in a conference call with reporters on Tuesday afternoon, did not deny touching women, but repeated his statement from last week that if he did it was not "inappropriate."
"First, I’m not aware of any other claim," he said. "As I said last week, this is very simple, I never touched anyone inappropriately … I never made any inappropriate advances ... (and) no one ever told me at the time that I made them feel uncomfortable. Obviously, there are people who said after the fact they felt uncomfortable."
The woman has not filed a formal complaint with the office of the governor.
Her allegations were reported to the governor's counsel by other employees in the Executive Chamber. The information also was relayed by the governor's office to the attorney general's office, which is coordinating an investigation into multiple allegations of sexual harassment that have been made against the governor.
The sixth woman could not be reached for comment. She is a member of the governor's Executive Chamber staff.
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@george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:
A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.
Two more accusers this morning.
The reality is the number of men who would be in the same level of hell is shockingly large. When the standard is I think I’ve been hit at work, almost all the women I know have multiple stories.
@loki said in Et tu, Andrew?:
@george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:
A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.
Two more accusers this morning.
The reality is the number of men who would be in the same level of hell is shockingly large. When the standard is I think I’ve been hit at work, almost all the women I know have multiple stories.
The reverse is almost equally true. Work in a place with a lot of women and you will find out.
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@loki said in Et tu, Andrew?:
@george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:
A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.
Two more accusers this morning.
The reality is the number of men who would be in the same level of hell is shockingly large. When the standard is I think I’ve been hit at work, almost all the women I know have multiple stories.
The reverse is almost equally true. Work in a place with a lot of women and you will find out.
@mik said in Et tu, Andrew?:
@loki said in Et tu, Andrew?:
@george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:
A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.
Two more accusers this morning.
The reality is the number of men who would be in the same level of hell is shockingly large. When the standard is I think I’ve been hit at work, almost all the women I know have multiple stories.
The reverse is almost equally true. Work in a place with a lot of women and you will find out.
He's looking! He's looking! Kinda hard to find just the right job to get this.
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"Can you help me with my iPhone?"
Charlotte Bennett, 25, a former staffer, was allegedly summoned to his private office inside the state Capitol building where Cuomo, who had had his iPhone for several months prior, asked his accuser for help navigating from his phone’s “settings” app to its “notes” app, Jessica Westerman, Bennett’s attorney, told The Times Union.
Bennett previously said the governor asked her about her love life — including whether she ever had sex with older men — and talked about his own, saying that age differences didn’t matter in relationships and he was open to dating women over 22.
During a meeting alone in his office, the governor said he was lonely and talked about wanting to hug someone, Bennett said. She said she swiftly complained to Cuomo’s chief of staff and was transferred to another job. She said she spoke to a lawyer for the governor, but didn’t insist on further action because she liked her new post and wanted to move on.
Cuomo allegedly used the same tactic of iPhone technical issues about five months later after the alleged Bennett incident with another female accuser at his private quarters in the Executive Mansion, the Times Union has reported.
The staffer alleged that he closed a door, reached under her blouse and fondled her after summoning her to the governor’s mansion in Albany for help with his cellphone, according to the Times Union of Albany. The newspaper didn’t name the woman, who said that she told Cuomo to stop groping her and that he had touched and flirted with her previously.
The Times Union’s reporting is based on an unidentified source with direct knowledge of the woman’s accusation.
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Biden: Cuomo should resign if allegations confirmed
President Joe Biden said in an exclusive interview with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos on Tuesday that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo should resign if an investigation confirms claims he committed sexual harassment.
"I know you said you want the investigation to continue," Stephanopoulos told Biden, referring to a probe by New York's attorney general into allegations Cuomo had harassed several women. "If the investigation confirms the claims of the women, should he resign?"
"Yes," the president replied. "I think he'll probably end up being prosecuted, too."
The obvious question is, what kind of investigation? Who's doing the investigating? What proof other than "
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Ok, groping is a different level of allegation.
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Ok, groping is a different level of allegation.
@lufins-dad said in Et tu, Andrew?:
Ok, groping is a different level of allegation.
Also, was there contemporaneous reporting of the alleged incident(s)? Did anyone go to a supervisor to complain?
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@mik said in Et tu, Andrew?:
Says they did. There should be a record.
Should be. Unless it's sealed somewhere, or the dog ate it.
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@mik said in Et tu, Andrew?:
Says they did. There should be a record.
Should be. Unless it's sealed somewhere, or the dog ate it.
@george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:
@mik said in Et tu, Andrew?:
Says they did. There should be a record.
Should be. Unless it's sealed somewhere, or the dog ate it.
Fortunately, the Governor has shown a propensity of hiring very honest staff that does not try to distort or hide incidents that could be damaging to Cuomo.
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I have paid zero attention to this story. Rightly or wrongly, sexual harassment stories bore me to death -- not least because they are so tediously SSDD. So what I say here may or may not be on the mark.
I'll tell you flat that a woman can shut down a man faster than hell if she isn't interested -- with no ambiguity. If she doesn't shut him down, it's because some part of her wants to play. Some part of her is intrigued or wish-fulfilled or avaricious or crazy or whatever. The man takes her up on her signals, and if she becomes displeased at some point, she's all wah, wah, wah and the guy ends up holding the bag.
That's the bones of it.
That's not to say a man can't be a pig or that there aren't exceptions to the above. But generally, only the dumbest douches on earth will try to power through a woman's cold disinterest, if it is sincere. If she isn't playing games.
In my years of working out in the world, I never had this problem. And I'm not the last word in gorgeousness, but I'm no dog, either. Early on especially, I was your average cute young thing. But the way I dressed and the way I behaved, it just was never a problem. Once in a while a man would make an overture, but I shut it down fast, and that was that.
Talking now about the sleazoids -- not about friendly, respectful sorta flirty.
That's why I have no use for women who run shrieking about sexual harassment. They're largely a bunch of hypocrites, and stupidly behaving ones at that.
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I have paid zero attention to this story. Rightly or wrongly, sexual harassment stories bore me to death -- not least because they are so tediously SSDD. So what I say here may or may not be on the mark.
I'll tell you flat that a woman can shut down a man faster than hell if she isn't interested -- with no ambiguity. If she doesn't shut him down, it's because some part of her wants to play. Some part of her is intrigued or wish-fulfilled or avaricious or crazy or whatever. The man takes her up on her signals, and if she becomes displeased at some point, she's all wah, wah, wah and the guy ends up holding the bag.
That's the bones of it.
That's not to say a man can't be a pig or that there aren't exceptions to the above. But generally, only the dumbest douches on earth will try to power through a woman's cold disinterest, if it is sincere. If she isn't playing games.
In my years of working out in the world, I never had this problem. And I'm not the last word in gorgeousness, but I'm no dog, either. Early on especially, I was your average cute young thing. But the way I dressed and the way I behaved, it just was never a problem. Once in a while a man would make an overture, but I shut it down fast, and that was that.
Talking now about the sleazoids -- not about friendly, respectful sorta flirty.
That's why I have no use for women who run shrieking about sexual harassment. They're largely a bunch of hypocrites, and stupidly behaving ones at that.
@catseye3 said in Et tu, Andrew?:
I have paid zero attention to this story. Rightly or wrongly, sexual harassment stories bore me to death -- not least because they are so tediously SSDD. So what I say here may or may not be on the mark.
I'll tell you flat that a woman can shut down a man faster than hell if she isn't interested -- with no ambiguity. If she doesn't shut him down, it's because some part of her wants to play. Some part of her is intrigued or wish-fulfilled or avaricious or crazy or whatever. The man takes her up on her signals, and if she becomes displeased at some point, she's all wah, wah, wah and the guy ends up holding the bag.
That's the bones of it.
That's not to say a man can't be a pig or that there aren't exceptions to the above. But generally, only the dumbest douches on earth will try to power through a woman's cold disinterest, if it is sincere. If she isn't playing games.
In my years of working out in the world, I never had this problem. And I'm not the last word in gorgeousness, but I'm no dog, either. Early on especially, I was your average cute young thing. But the way I dressed and the way I behaved, it just was never a problem. Once in a while a man would make an overture, but I shut it down fast, and that was that.
Talking now about the sleazoids -- not about friendly, respectful sorta flirty.
That's why I have no use for women who run shrieking about sexual harassment. They're largely a bunch of hypocrites, and stupidly behaving ones at that.
I have to say I don't agree with any of that.
I was only joking
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@catseye3 said in Et tu, Andrew?:
I have paid zero attention to this story. Rightly or wrongly, sexual harassment stories bore me to death -- not least because they are so tediously SSDD. So what I say here may or may not be on the mark.
I'll tell you flat that a woman can shut down a man faster than hell if she isn't interested -- with no ambiguity. If she doesn't shut him down, it's because some part of her wants to play. Some part of her is intrigued or wish-fulfilled or avaricious or crazy or whatever. The man takes her up on her signals, and if she becomes displeased at some point, she's all wah, wah, wah and the guy ends up holding the bag.
That's the bones of it.
That's not to say a man can't be a pig or that there aren't exceptions to the above. But generally, only the dumbest douches on earth will try to power through a woman's cold disinterest, if it is sincere. If she isn't playing games.
In my years of working out in the world, I never had this problem. And I'm not the last word in gorgeousness, but I'm no dog, either. Early on especially, I was your average cute young thing. But the way I dressed and the way I behaved, it just was never a problem. Once in a while a man would make an overture, but I shut it down fast, and that was that.
Talking now about the sleazoids -- not about friendly, respectful sorta flirty.
That's why I have no use for women who run shrieking about sexual harassment. They're largely a bunch of hypocrites, and stupidly behaving ones at that.
I have to say I don't agree with any of that.
@doctor-phibes said in Et tu, Andrew?:
@catseye3 said in Et tu, Andrew?:
I have paid zero attention to this story. Rightly or wrongly, sexual harassment stories bore me to death -- not least because they are so tediously SSDD. So what I say here may or may not be on the mark.
I'll tell you flat that a woman can shut down a man faster than hell if she isn't interested -- with no ambiguity. If she doesn't shut him down, it's because some part of her wants to play. Some part of her is intrigued or wish-fulfilled or avaricious or crazy or whatever. The man takes her up on her signals, and if she becomes displeased at some point, she's all wah, wah, wah and the guy ends up holding the bag.
That's the bones of it.
That's not to say a man can't be a pig or that there aren't exceptions to the above. But generally, only the dumbest douches on earth will try to power through a woman's cold disinterest, if it is sincere. If she isn't playing games.
In my years of working out in the world, I never had this problem. And I'm not the last word in gorgeousness, but I'm no dog, either. Early on especially, I was your average cute young thing. But the way I dressed and the way I behaved, it just was never a problem. Once in a while a man would make an overture, but I shut it down fast, and that was that.
Talking now about the sleazoids -- not about friendly, respectful sorta flirty.
That's why I have no use for women who run shrieking about sexual harassment. They're largely a bunch of hypocrites, and stupidly behaving ones at that.
I have to say I don't agree with any of that.
Yes, you do have to say that you don't agree with any of that.
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@catseye3 said in Et tu, Andrew?:
Okay. Which part?
The part where you said you weren't the last word in gorgeousness. You're totally hot.
The Brad
