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Et tu, Andrew?

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  • George KG George K

    A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.

    Two more accusers this morning.

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    @george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:

    A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.

    Two more accusers this morning.

    The reality is the number of men who would be in the same level of hell is shockingly large. When the standard is I think I’ve been hit at work, almost all the women I know have multiple stories.

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    • George KG George K

      A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.

      Two more accusers this morning.

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      @george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:

      A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.

      Two more accusers this morning.

      She meant starting now.

      Education is extremely important.

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        I still find the whole “I will destroy you” to a state senator to be very troubling and overlooked.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          I still find the whole “I will destroy you” to a state senator to be very troubling and overlooked.

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          @lufins-dad said in Et tu, Andrew?:

          I still find the whole “I will destroy you” to a state senator to be very troubling and overlooked.

          It's the Chicago way Squirrel!

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Weren’t Andrew and Chris among those that made fun of Pence?

            The Brad

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              So Cuomo is not going to lose his job for decisions that killed tens of thousands of nursing home residents and then covering it up, but he is going to lose his job for making ridiculous passes at women?

              Don’t get me wrong, he is an asshole and treated these women poorly and this behavior shouldn’t be tolerated, but there is a bit of a disconnect here.

              The Brad

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                Number 6

                Still waiting for Gov. Cuomo to agree to the Kavanaugh standard for determining guilt. But, that's different, of course.

                A sixth woman has leveled allegations of sexually inappropriate conduct against Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, accusing him of touching her without consent late last year during an encounter at the governor's mansion, the Times Union has confirmed.

                The alleged incident took place after the woman, a member of the governor's Executive Chamber staff, had been summoned to the mansion to assist the governor with a work-related matter. The woman's supervisors recently became aware of the allegation and alerted the governor's counsel of it on Monday.

                An official close to the matter on Tuesday confirmed to the Times Union that the new allegation had been made, although Cuomo, during a news conference hours later, denied knowledge of it.

                In response to detailed questions about the handling of the woman's allegations by the governor's office, Beth Garvey, acting counsel to the governor, said: "All allegations that we learn of directly or indirectly are going promptly to the investigators appointed by the attorney general."

                Cuomo, in a conference call with reporters on Tuesday afternoon, did not deny touching women, but repeated his statement from last week that if he did it was not "inappropriate."

                "First, I’m not aware of any other claim," he said. "As I said last week, this is very simple, I never touched anyone inappropriately … I never made any inappropriate advances ... (and) no one ever told me at the time that I made them feel uncomfortable. Obviously, there are people who said after the fact they felt uncomfortable."

                The woman has not filed a formal complaint with the office of the governor.

                Her allegations were reported to the governor's counsel by other employees in the Executive Chamber. The information also was relayed by the governor's office to the attorney general's office, which is coordinating an investigation into multiple allegations of sexual harassment that have been made against the governor.

                The sixth woman could not be reached for comment. She is a member of the governor's Executive Chamber staff.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  @george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                  A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.

                  Two more accusers this morning.

                  The reality is the number of men who would be in the same level of hell is shockingly large. When the standard is I think I’ve been hit at work, almost all the women I know have multiple stories.

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                  Mik
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                  @loki said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                  @george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                  A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.

                  Two more accusers this morning.

                  The reality is the number of men who would be in the same level of hell is shockingly large. When the standard is I think I’ve been hit at work, almost all the women I know have multiple stories.

                  The reverse is almost equally true. Work in a place with a lot of women and you will find out.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    @loki said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                    @george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                    A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.

                    Two more accusers this morning.

                    The reality is the number of men who would be in the same level of hell is shockingly large. When the standard is I think I’ve been hit at work, almost all the women I know have multiple stories.

                    The reverse is almost equally true. Work in a place with a lot of women and you will find out.

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                    @mik said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                    @loki said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                    @george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                    A state congresswoman said that if one more woman speaks up (because, you know, three isn't enough, amirite?), he should resign.

                    Two more accusers this morning.

                    The reality is the number of men who would be in the same level of hell is shockingly large. When the standard is I think I’ve been hit at work, almost all the women I know have multiple stories.

                    The reverse is almost equally true. Work in a place with a lot of women and you will find out.

                    He's looking! He's looking! Kinda hard to find just the right job to get this.

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                      Mind you I never complained......

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        #41

                        Today, Schumer, Nadler, AOC and others have called for his resignation. His response was something along the lines of "It's not appropriate for politicians to comment on this without a proper investigation."

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            "Can you help me with my iPhone?"

                            Charlotte Bennett, 25, a former staffer, was allegedly summoned to his private office inside the state Capitol building where Cuomo, who had had his iPhone for several months prior, asked his accuser for help navigating from his phone’s “settings” app to its “notes” app, Jessica Westerman, Bennett’s attorney, told The Times Union.

                            Bennett previously said the governor asked her about her love life — including whether she ever had sex with older men — and talked about his own, saying that age differences didn’t matter in relationships and he was open to dating women over 22.

                            During a meeting alone in his office, the governor said he was lonely and talked about wanting to hug someone, Bennett said. She said she swiftly complained to Cuomo’s chief of staff and was transferred to another job. She said she spoke to a lawyer for the governor, but didn’t insist on further action because she liked her new post and wanted to move on.

                            Cuomo allegedly used the same tactic of iPhone technical issues about five months later after the alleged Bennett incident with another female accuser at his private quarters in the Executive Mansion, the Times Union has reported.

                            The staffer alleged that he closed a door, reached under her blouse and fondled her after summoning her to the governor’s mansion in Albany for help with his cellphone, according to the Times Union of Albany. The newspaper didn’t name the woman, who said that she told Cuomo to stop groping her and that he had touched and flirted with her previously.

                            The Times Union’s reporting is based on an unidentified source with direct knowledge of the woman’s accusation.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Biden: Cuomo should resign if allegations confirmed

                              President Joe Biden said in an exclusive interview with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos on Tuesday that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo should resign if an investigation confirms claims he committed sexual harassment.

                              "I know you said you want the investigation to continue," Stephanopoulos told Biden, referring to a probe by New York's attorney general into allegations Cuomo had harassed several women. "If the investigation confirms the claims of the women, should he resign?"

                              "Yes," the president replied. "I think he'll probably end up being prosecuted, too."

                              The obvious question is, what kind of investigation? Who's doing the investigating? What proof other than "She They said?" How about the Cuomo standard: A lie detector?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Ok, groping is a different level of allegation.

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Ok, groping is a different level of allegation.

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                                  @lufins-dad said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                                  Ok, groping is a different level of allegation.

                                  Also, was there contemporaneous reporting of the alleged incident(s)? Did anyone go to a supervisor to complain?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
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                                    Says they did. There should be a record.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Says they did. There should be a record.

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                                      @mik said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                                      Says they did. There should be a record.

                                      Should be. Unless it's sealed somewhere, or the dog ate it.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @mik said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                                        Says they did. There should be a record.

                                        Should be. Unless it's sealed somewhere, or the dog ate it.

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                                        @george-k said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                                        @mik said in Et tu, Andrew?:

                                        Says they did. There should be a record.

                                        Should be. Unless it's sealed somewhere, or the dog ate it.

                                        Fortunately, the Governor has shown a propensity of hiring very honest staff that does not try to distort or hide incidents that could be damaging to Cuomo.

                                        The Brad

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                                          The devil is in the details as to what it means to be ‘confirmed’.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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