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Who killed Ashli Babbitt?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:25 last edited by jon-nyc
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    Imagine instead a violent mob physically breaking windows and doors in the white house trying to gain entry. How many of the filthy, oxygen-wasting vermin would eat lead? Surely more than just one.

    We need to work on the timidity of the capitol police.

    There are times in history when a blood bath is warranted.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:34 last edited by
      #54

      Drinking again?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:34 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

        Imagine instead a violent mob physically breaking windows and doors in the white house trying to gain entry. How many of the filthy, oxygen-wasting vermin would eat lead?

        Care to take a shot at that question Jolly?

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:36 last edited by
          #56

          Absolutely.

          You use deadly force when you need to. The question is whether it was needed in her case.

          Was it?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Copper
            wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:38 last edited by
            #57

            If the doofusses are taking selfies,

            Send them to meet their maker.

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              26 Aug 2021, 01:38

              If the doofusses are taking selfies,

              Send them to meet their maker.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:40 last edited by
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              @copper said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

              If the doofusses are taking selfies,

              Send them to meet their maker.

              You don't understand...You can't treat MAGATS and Antifa the same way.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:40 last edited by
                #59

                Again, what if it had been the White House last summer? 500 BLM vermin instead of 500 magat vermin.

                How many would have been carried away in bags?

                We can’t know the exact number, obviously, but we all know it would have been many more than one.

                What’s the difference?

                PS. A constitutionalist will tell you that Congress is not a co-equal branch of government with the executive. It’s actually the primary branch.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:45 last edited by Jolly
                  #60

                  There are no primary branches. There are three co-equal branches.

                  As for who gets shot, I'll use deadly force before just about anybody on this board. And I know what it's like to look down the sights and frame center mass on a man.

                  Do you?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    26 Aug 2021, 01:34

                    @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                    Imagine instead a violent mob physically breaking windows and doors in the white house trying to gain entry. How many of the filthy, oxygen-wasting vermin would eat lead?

                    Care to take a shot at that question Jolly?

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:46 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                    @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                    Imagine instead a violent mob physically breaking windows and doors in the white house trying to gain entry. How many of the filthy, oxygen-wasting vermin would eat lead?

                    Care to take a shot at that question Jolly?

                    bump

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:47 last edited by
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                      Thought I already had.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:48 last edited by
                        #63

                        Nope. You avoided it then as now.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:50 last edited by jon-nyc
                          #64

                          Feel free to say “I think if a violent mob of hundreds had tried to breach non-public areas of the White House last summer the secret service wouldn’t have killed anybody” if that’s what you truly believe.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 01:51 last edited by
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                            George you’re also welcome to say that if you believe it.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              26 Aug 2021, 01:50

                              Feel free to say “I think if a violent mob of hundreds had tried to breach non-public areas of the White House last summer the secret service wouldn’t have killed anybody” if that’s what you truly believe.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 02:00 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                              Feel free to say “I think if a violent mob of hundreds had tried to breach non-public areas of the White House last summer the secret service wouldn’t have killed anybody” if that’s what you truly believe.

                              There is no need to speculate

                              The British burned the place down

                              Dolly Madison grabbed a portrait of Washington and abandoned the place

                              Nobody died

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 02:01 last edited by
                                #67

                                I haven't avoided it at all.

                                The rules for an officer to discharge his weapon is if he is in imminent danger, if innocent life is at stake or if (in some jurisdictions) a fugitive is in flight. I think you know that.

                                The question in Babbitt 's case is how much danger did she pose? Did she pose a danger to the officer or to the people he was protecting? Did she have a weapon! Why didn't any other officer discharge his weapon that day? Why did he shoot, when other officers were standing right next to her and could have been hit by a pass-through?

                                Is there a difference between a Trump mob and an Antifa mob? Apparently, one is to be exterminated and one is to be celebrated. That seems to be the sentiment among some.

                                Would I have shot Ashli Babbitt?

                                No. Not on that side of the window and not with other officers standing next to her. Would I have shot her on the other side of the window?

                                Probably.

                                But in no way should a police shooting be an anonymous event.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 02:05 last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #68

                                  Still avoiding the question.

                                  I think we can all divine your answer. It’s something like this:

                                  “Of course it would have been a blood bath had this happened at the White House any time in the last several decades.

                                  So for that reason I would much rather compare this to a random police stop in Tempe, Arizona or some black thugs looting a Banana Republic in Santa Cruz or attacking one of thousands of federal court buildings with no one inside.”

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 02:09 last edited by
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                                    I gave you an answer. It's not my problem you don't like it.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 02:10 last edited by
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                                      I think it is remarkable that there was only one shooting, even if this particular one is questionable.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 02:11 last edited by jon-nyc
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                                        You answered a different question because you know with moral certainty that this would have been a blood bath at the White House.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 02:12 last edited by
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                                          You think it would have gotten that far?

                                          Me, neither.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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