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Who killed Ashli Babbitt?

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #55

    @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

    Imagine instead a violent mob physically breaking windows and doors in the white house trying to gain entry. How many of the filthy, oxygen-wasting vermin would eat lead?

    Care to take a shot at that question Jolly?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • JollyJ Offline
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      #56

      Absolutely.

      You use deadly force when you need to. The question is whether it was needed in her case.

      Was it?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • CopperC Offline
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        #57

        If the doofusses are taking selfies,

        Send them to meet their maker.

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        • CopperC Copper

          If the doofusses are taking selfies,

          Send them to meet their maker.

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          #58

          @copper said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

          If the doofusses are taking selfies,

          Send them to meet their maker.

          You don't understand...You can't treat MAGATS and Antifa the same way.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            #59

            Again, what if it had been the White House last summer? 500 BLM vermin instead of 500 magat vermin.

            How many would have been carried away in bags?

            We can’t know the exact number, obviously, but we all know it would have been many more than one.

            What’s the difference?

            PS. A constitutionalist will tell you that Congress is not a co-equal branch of government with the executive. It’s actually the primary branch.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #60

              There are no primary branches. There are three co-equal branches.

              As for who gets shot, I'll use deadly force before just about anybody on this board. And I know what it's like to look down the sights and frame center mass on a man.

              Do you?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                Imagine instead a violent mob physically breaking windows and doors in the white house trying to gain entry. How many of the filthy, oxygen-wasting vermin would eat lead?

                Care to take a shot at that question Jolly?

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                @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                Imagine instead a violent mob physically breaking windows and doors in the white house trying to gain entry. How many of the filthy, oxygen-wasting vermin would eat lead?

                Care to take a shot at that question Jolly?

                bump

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #62

                  Thought I already had.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #63

                    Nope. You avoided it then as now.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      #64

                      Feel free to say “I think if a violent mob of hundreds had tried to breach non-public areas of the White House last summer the secret service wouldn’t have killed anybody” if that’s what you truly believe.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        #65

                        George you’re also welcome to say that if you believe it.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Feel free to say “I think if a violent mob of hundreds had tried to breach non-public areas of the White House last summer the secret service wouldn’t have killed anybody” if that’s what you truly believe.

                          CopperC Offline
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                          @jon-nyc said in Who killed Ashli Babbitt?:

                          Feel free to say “I think if a violent mob of hundreds had tried to breach non-public areas of the White House last summer the secret service wouldn’t have killed anybody” if that’s what you truly believe.

                          There is no need to speculate

                          The British burned the place down

                          Dolly Madison grabbed a portrait of Washington and abandoned the place

                          Nobody died

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            I haven't avoided it at all.

                            The rules for an officer to discharge his weapon is if he is in imminent danger, if innocent life is at stake or if (in some jurisdictions) a fugitive is in flight. I think you know that.

                            The question in Babbitt 's case is how much danger did she pose? Did she pose a danger to the officer or to the people he was protecting? Did she have a weapon! Why didn't any other officer discharge his weapon that day? Why did he shoot, when other officers were standing right next to her and could have been hit by a pass-through?

                            Is there a difference between a Trump mob and an Antifa mob? Apparently, one is to be exterminated and one is to be celebrated. That seems to be the sentiment among some.

                            Would I have shot Ashli Babbitt?

                            No. Not on that side of the window and not with other officers standing next to her. Would I have shot her on the other side of the window?

                            Probably.

                            But in no way should a police shooting be an anonymous event.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              #68

                              Still avoiding the question.

                              I think we can all divine your answer. It’s something like this:

                              “Of course it would have been a blood bath had this happened at the White House any time in the last several decades.

                              So for that reason I would much rather compare this to a random police stop in Tempe, Arizona or some black thugs looting a Banana Republic in Santa Cruz or attacking one of thousands of federal court buildings with no one inside.”

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                I gave you an answer. It's not my problem you don't like it.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • MikM Away
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                                  Mik
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                                  I think it is remarkable that there was only one shooting, even if this particular one is questionable.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    #71

                                    You answered a different question because you know with moral certainty that this would have been a blood bath at the White House.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      You think it would have gotten that far?

                                      Me, neither.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        So now you’re essentially asking where on the White House property would the blood bath have occurred. It’s a reasonable question but it doesn’t help you much in your broader point.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • JollyJ Offline
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                                          Tell me, Jon, where would you have shot her?

                                          Would you enjoy that iron smell of hot blood as it splattered on the wall and drained away on the floor? Would you have been delighted at the smell of MAGAT feces, as her anal sphincter relaxed and she soiled her clothes? Would you grin a small, fleeting smile of satisfaction at a deed well done?

                                          Nah, me neither.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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