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Puzzle time - algebra edition

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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
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    #5

    Hey, what are you all doing in this thread? I was hoping that the title would scare off math-challenged posters ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      #6

      Do the operator mappings have to be unique?

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        #7

        Jon chimes in to let us know he understands the question.

        Right....tell the truth Klaus, u just made up the word bijection.

        Sounds filthy to me.

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        • MikM Away
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          Needs pronouns.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." โ€” Thomas Sowell

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Do the operator mappings have to be unique?

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            #9

            @jon-nyc said in Puzzle time - algebra edition:

            Do the operator mappings have to be unique?

            I'm not sure what you have in mind, but I mean that, for instance, "+" is interpreted as an operation on sets (for the first task) or logical propositions (for the second task). For instance, you could map "+" to "intersection" (that choice would satisfy equations 1 and 2, but it would be hard to make it work for the other equations, too).

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              Just as a little teaser, this puzzle illustrates the probably most beautiful result of 20th century mathematics/logic. A result that inspired the works of Field medalists and created whole new subfields in mathematics.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                #11

                Could you map two symbols to the same operator?

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                • KlausK Offline
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                  Klaus
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                  #12

                  Sure.

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                  • KlausK Offline
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                    Klaus
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                    #13

                    OK, maybe not the right audience here for this kind of puzzle ๐Ÿ™‚

                    Anyway, just for closure, here's a solution:

                    For sets:

                    the operator + is set union
                    ยท is set intersection
                    A^B is the set of functions from B to A
                    1 is any one-element set
                    0 is the empty set
                    2 is any two-element set

                    For logical propositions:

                    the operator + is disjunction
                    ยท is conjunction
                    A^B is the implication B -> A
                    1 is logical truth
                    0 is logical falsity
                    2 is also logical truth (because 2 = 1 + 1 = true OR true = true )

                    As usual for mathematics, I'll leave the verification of the equations from the original post as an exercise to the reader ๐Ÿ™‚ .

                    These mappings form the basis the so-called "Curry-Howard correspondence" and, more recently, "homotopy type theory", an influential modern attempt to "reboot" mathematics.

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      OK, maybe not the right audience here for this kind of puzzle ๐Ÿ™‚

                      Anyway, just for closure, here's a solution:

                      For sets:

                      the operator + is set union
                      ยท is set intersection
                      A^B is the set of functions from B to A
                      1 is any one-element set
                      0 is the empty set
                      2 is any two-element set

                      For logical propositions:

                      the operator + is disjunction
                      ยท is conjunction
                      A^B is the implication B -> A
                      1 is logical truth
                      0 is logical falsity
                      2 is also logical truth (because 2 = 1 + 1 = true OR true = true )

                      As usual for mathematics, I'll leave the verification of the equations from the original post as an exercise to the reader ๐Ÿ™‚ .

                      These mappings form the basis the so-called "Curry-Howard correspondence" and, more recently, "homotopy type theory", an influential modern attempt to "reboot" mathematics.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @klaus said in Puzzle time - algebra edition:

                      A^B is the implication B -> A

                      I tried that and ruled it out (erroneously) thinking it failed 7

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