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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    That may or may not be true.

    One this that is true: We don't know the results of the autopsy.

    Why?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      That may or may not be true.

      One this that is true: We don't know the results of the autopsy.

      Why?

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      Jolly
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      @george-k said in Stroke?:

      That may or may not be true.

      One this that is true: We don't know the results of the autopsy.

      Why?

      That, is a very good question....

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Loki
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        If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          Some TDS crocodile tears are going to have to be re-absorbed into TDS eyes. That's gonna sting.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • L Loki

            If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

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            @loki said in Stroke?:

            If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

            Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @loki said in Stroke?:

              If it was a stroke the literature suggests 10 risk factors of which stress is only one. So one would assume extreme stress triggered the stroke but do we know if a stroke at some near term point was likely to happen if the 9 other risk factors weren’t actively mitigated?

              Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

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              @jolly said in Stroke?:

              Crawling out on a medical limb...the hormone dump of extreme stress most likely causes tachycardia and high blood pressure, causing extra pressure to be put on an arterial wall in the brain?

              No question that a hypertensive crisis can cause a hemorrhagic stroke. But usually that's in older patients. I have no idea what Officer Sicknick's medical history is, but what you mention is possible. On a scale of likely (1-10), I'd give it about a 2, unless he popped a berry aneurysm.

              But, it's all speculation without the autopsy, right?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Jolly
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                What autopsy?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  What autopsy?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @jolly said in Stroke?:

                  What autopsy?

                  There was no autopsy?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @jolly said in Stroke?:

                    What autopsy?

                    There was no autopsy?

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                    @george-k said in Stroke?:

                    @jolly said in Stroke?:

                    What autopsy?

                    There was no autopsy?

                    Legally, I'm sure there was.

                    It just seems that nobody official has bothered to talk about it.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

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                        @lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

                        So. Has anybody retracted their “beaten to death with a fire extinguisher” statements yet?

                        No.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

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                            @lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

                            I can provide links if anybody needs. Then they can make any retractions they feel is appropriate.

                            Don't hold your breath.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

                                How much do we actually know about this attack with a fire extinguisher?

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  Who’s we? TNCR or investigators? As for the former I think all we know is that it was described by witnesses.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                    I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

                                    Dude, if somebody tore up a fire hydrant and hit him, I'm officially impressed.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Ha

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                        I’m not sure ‘the blow from the fire hydrant wasn’t what actually killed him’ is quite as exculpatory as some of you seem to think.

                                        I'd say no blunt force trauma is pretty fucking exculpatory.
                                        https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html

                                        The Brad

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                                          I watched the video that showed the extinguisher hit the policemen.

                                          What I saw wasn't enough to injure a healthy adult man.

                                          It wasn't quite a glancing blow, more of a touch.

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