The Big Lie
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wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 02:08 last edited by
Julie Kelly over at American Greatness has done a pretty exhaustive look at the Dem's continued claim that 1/6 was an armed insurrection.
On Tucker Carlson tonight, she talked about her findings...There was NO armed insurrection, unless you consider a protester using pepper spray or a guy using a riot shield to break a window, "armed". The only two people actually armed, were arrested on violations of D.C.'s gun possession laws (laws that would have applied in many states if the U.S.) and were not arrested in the Capitol building.
The Dens and the MSM are lying to you again...
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wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 11:10 last edited by jon-nyc
Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.
By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?
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wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 11:39 last edited by
The Big Lie was that Donald Trump won the election.
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Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.
By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?
wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 14:27 last edited by Aqua Letifer@jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:
regardless of the testimony of police on the scene
They're obviously lying liars who told big lies. To protect their job! I'll bet you without any evidence that's exactly what it was!
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Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.
By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?
wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 15:40 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:
Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.
By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?
You can’t find a gun in all that was seen and recorded and you allege they were there? 100 years from now a history book on the insurrection...”rumors of guns persisted for months after...”
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wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 15:50 last edited by
You’re making no sense again. Reread my post.
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wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 16:16 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:
You’re making no sense again. Reread my post.
I have no idea if people had guns or not. Privately I believe there were at least a few that escaped detection but I also find it deeply disturbing for news to be evidence free with its allegations. One photo would help. One.
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Julie Kelly over at American Greatness has done a pretty exhaustive look at the Dem's continued claim that 1/6 was an armed insurrection.
On Tucker Carlson tonight, she talked about her findings...There was NO armed insurrection, unless you consider a protester using pepper spray or a guy using a riot shield to break a window, "armed". The only two people actually armed, were arrested on violations of D.C.'s gun possession laws (laws that would have applied in many states if the U.S.) and were not arrested in the Capitol building.
The Dens and the MSM are lying to you again...
wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 17:52 last edited byOne final point I saw the protestors use “fists, pipes,sticks, bats, metal barricades and flag poles”. That is sickening enough. What’s so hard about straight news?
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Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.
By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?
wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 17:54 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:
Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.
By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?
According to her, Nobody was arrested in the Capitol building with a firearm. The two arrests for weapons possession were not in the Capitol.
If you know D.C. gun laws, you in violation of the law if you possess a gun without a permit. Anywhere in D.C.
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One final point I saw the protestors use “fists, pipes,sticks, bats, metal barricades and flag poles”. That is sickening enough. What’s so hard about straight news?
wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 17:55 last edited by@loki said in The Big Lie:
One final point I saw the protestors use “fists, pipes,sticks, bats, metal barricades and flag poles”. That is sickening enough. What’s so hard about straight news?
Doesn't fit the narrative.
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I don’t know if anyone was arrested in the Capitol building at all.
There were gun arrests on the Capitol grounds.
wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 17:58 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:
I don’t know if anyone was arrested in the Capitol building at all.
There were gun arrests on the Capitol grounds.
Then, that is on the grounds, not in the Capitol.
Note, the arrests were for possession. That's a big difference, legally speaking.
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wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 17:59 last edited by
Were there any arrests inside the Capitol building at all?
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wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 18:00 last edited by
She wouldn't be trying to deflect, by any chance?
We've been told over and over that Trump's supporters are all peaceful, unlike the violent people on the left, who incidentally, I despise. It turns out that's not true, so we argue about whether they were actually carrying guns in the actual building?
I was only joking
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wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 18:08 last edited by Renauda
I wonder what all those people were doing there on that day? It is said that some were exercising their constitutional rights, others insist they were taking selfies, many say they were rioting with no clear goal in mind, still others maintain they were attempting to capture elected officials and do untold things to them.
Fine.
The fact remains however some folks were determined to cause big trouble and went there well prepared to cause big trouble. And they did cause big trouble.
I still believe though that the biggest lie is Trump's contention that the election was stolen from him and that are 70 odd million muggins out there who actually believe it.
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She wouldn't be trying to deflect, by any chance?
We've been told over and over that Trump's supporters are all peaceful, unlike the violent people on the left, who incidentally, I despise. It turns out that's not true, so we argue about whether they were actually carrying guns in the actual building?
wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 18:08 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:
She wouldn't be trying to deflect, by any chance?
We've been told over and over that Trump's supporters are all peaceful, unlike the violent people on the left, who incidentally, I despise. It turns out that's not true, so we argue about whether they were actually carrying guns in the actual building?
No, get your head out of your ass and listen...
We gave been told time and time again, this was an armed insurrection. I - and most other people - consider armed to mean firearms. Not something like a flagpole or an officer's riot shield that some protester has taken. I wouldn't consider throwing rocks or bricks "armed".
Peaceful, this is not. But this is a typical scene in CHAS:
Can you see the difference?
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wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 18:17 last edited by
Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.
Elbows up!
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Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.
wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 18:18 last edited by@renauda said in The Big Lie:
Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.
Some of us believe one is a bigger problem than the other. That does not preclude finding both to be wrong.
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@renauda said in The Big Lie:
Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.
Some of us believe one is a bigger problem than the other. That does not preclude finding both to be wrong.
wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 18:20 last edited by@horace I agree one is a bigger problem than the other. But that is where we are surely bound to disagree.
Elbows up!
