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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Julie Kelly over at American Greatness has done a pretty exhaustive look at the Dem's continued claim that 1/6 was an armed insurrection.

    On Tucker Carlson tonight, she talked about her findings...There was NO armed insurrection, unless you consider a protester using pepper spray or a guy using a riot shield to break a window, "armed". The only two people actually armed, were arrested on violations of D.C.'s gun possession laws (laws that would have applied in many states if the U.S.) and were not arrested in the Capitol building.

    The Dens and the MSM are lying to you again...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.

      By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        The Big Lie was that Donald Trump won the election.

        I was only joking

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.

          By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?

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          Aqua Letifer
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          @jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:

          regardless of the testimony of police on the scene

          They're obviously lying liars who told big lies. To protect their job! I'll bet you without any evidence that's exactly what it was!

          Please love yourself.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.

            By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?

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            @jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:

            Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.

            By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?

            You can’t find a gun in all that was seen and recorded and you allege they were there? 100 years from now a history book on the insurrection...”rumors of guns persisted for months after...”

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              You’re making no sense again. Reread my post.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                You’re making no sense again. Reread my post.

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                @jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:

                You’re making no sense again. Reread my post.

                I have no idea if people had guns or not. Privately I believe there were at least a few that escaped detection but I also find it deeply disturbing for news to be evidence free with its allegations. One photo would help. One.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Julie Kelly over at American Greatness has done a pretty exhaustive look at the Dem's continued claim that 1/6 was an armed insurrection.

                  On Tucker Carlson tonight, she talked about her findings...There was NO armed insurrection, unless you consider a protester using pepper spray or a guy using a riot shield to break a window, "armed". The only two people actually armed, were arrested on violations of D.C.'s gun possession laws (laws that would have applied in many states if the U.S.) and were not arrested in the Capitol building.

                  The Dens and the MSM are lying to you again...

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                  One final point I saw the protestors use “fists, pipes,sticks, bats, metal barricades and flag poles”. That is sickening enough. What’s so hard about straight news?

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.

                    By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?

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                    @jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:

                    Wait, so you’re saying if no one was arrested inside the capitol building armed, then it follows that everyone in there was unarmed, regardless of the testimony of police on the scene? That reasoning seems highly motivated.

                    By the way, was anybody arrested inside the actual capitol building?

                    According to her, Nobody was arrested in the Capitol building with a firearm. The two arrests for weapons possession were not in the Capitol.

                    If you know D.C. gun laws, you in violation of the law if you possess a gun without a permit. Anywhere in D.C.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      One final point I saw the protestors use “fists, pipes,sticks, bats, metal barricades and flag poles”. That is sickening enough. What’s so hard about straight news?

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                      @loki said in The Big Lie:

                      One final point I saw the protestors use “fists, pipes,sticks, bats, metal barricades and flag poles”. That is sickening enough. What’s so hard about straight news?

                      Doesn't fit the narrative.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        I don’t know if anyone was arrested in the Capitol building at all.

                        There were gun arrests on the Capitol grounds.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          At least nine Marylanders were arrested in the riots at the U.S. Capitol, including a 33-year-old man facing charges for allegedly carrying a pistol and high-capacity magazine onto Capitol grounds.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            I don’t know if anyone was arrested in the Capitol building at all.

                            There were gun arrests on the Capitol grounds.

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                            @jon-nyc said in The Big Lie:

                            I don’t know if anyone was arrested in the Capitol building at all.

                            There were gun arrests on the Capitol grounds.

                            Then, that is on the grounds, not in the Capitol.

                            Note, the arrests were for possession. That's a big difference, legally speaking.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Were there any arrests inside the Capitol building at all?

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                She wouldn't be trying to deflect, by any chance?

                                We've been told over and over that Trump's supporters are all peaceful, unlike the violent people on the left, who incidentally, I despise. It turns out that's not true, so we argue about whether they were actually carrying guns in the actual building?

                                I was only joking

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                                  I wonder what all those people were doing there on that day? It is said that some were exercising their constitutional rights, others insist they were taking selfies, many say they were rioting with no clear goal in mind, still others maintain they were attempting to capture elected officials and do untold things to them.

                                  Fine.

                                  The fact remains however some folks were determined to cause big trouble and went there well prepared to cause big trouble. And they did cause big trouble.

                                  I still believe though that the biggest lie is Trump's contention that the election was stolen from him and that are 70 odd million muggins out there who actually believe it.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    She wouldn't be trying to deflect, by any chance?

                                    We've been told over and over that Trump's supporters are all peaceful, unlike the violent people on the left, who incidentally, I despise. It turns out that's not true, so we argue about whether they were actually carrying guns in the actual building?

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                                    @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                                    She wouldn't be trying to deflect, by any chance?

                                    We've been told over and over that Trump's supporters are all peaceful, unlike the violent people on the left, who incidentally, I despise. It turns out that's not true, so we argue about whether they were actually carrying guns in the actual building?

                                    No, get your head out of your ass and listen...

                                    We gave been told time and time again, this was an armed insurrection. I - and most other people - consider armed to mean firearms. Not something like a flagpole or an officer's riot shield that some protester has taken. I wouldn't consider throwing rocks or bricks "armed".

                                    Peaceful, this is not. But this is a typical scene in CHAS:

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                                    Can you see the difference?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

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                                        @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                        Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                                        Some of us believe one is a bigger problem than the other. That does not preclude finding both to be wrong.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                          Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                                          Some of us believe one is a bigger problem than the other. That does not preclude finding both to be wrong.

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                                          @horace I agree one is a bigger problem than the other. But that is where we are surely bound to disagree.

                                          Elbows up!

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