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RIP Rush.

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:14 last edited by
    #53

    What the fuck are you on about?

    I was only joking

    H 1 Reply Last reply 18 Feb 2021, 02:16
    • D Doctor Phibes
      18 Feb 2021, 02:14

      What the fuck are you on about?

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      Horace
      wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:16 last edited by
      #54

      @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

      What the fuck are you on about?

      A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:17 last edited by
        #55

        What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

        I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

        I was only joking

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          18 Feb 2021, 02:17

          What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

          I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

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          Horace
          wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:17 last edited by
          #56

          @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

          What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

          I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

          I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            18 Feb 2021, 02:10

            @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

            @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

            Justify for me please the other two quotes then.

            Won't and can't. I don't know the context, and I'm too lazy to look it up. You can form and keep your own opinions on those. I don't have any.

            I do, however, recall the MJF stuff.

            And, by the way, how did all that embryonic stem cell stuff work out, almost 20 years later?

            I have no idea what that refers to at all.

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            George K
            wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:18 last edited by
            #57

            @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

            I have no idea what that refers to at all.

            Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

            Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • H Horace
              18 Feb 2021, 02:17

              @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

              What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

              I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

              I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:19 last edited by
              #58

              @horace said in RIP Rush.:

              @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

              What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

              I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

              I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

              I'm sad he left, too.

              But, if you're going to dish it out as much as he did, I think you do have to be prepared to take a little back.

              I was only joking

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              • G George K
                18 Feb 2021, 02:18

                @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:21 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #59

                @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                Presumably, the idea was that if embryonic research stopped, abortions would stop.

                How's that working out?

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  18 Feb 2021, 02:21

                  @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                  @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                  I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                  Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                  Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                  Presumably, the idea was that if embryonic research stopped, abortions would stop.

                  How's that working out?

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                  George K
                  wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:30 last edited by
                  #60

                  @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                  Presumably, the idea was that if embryonic research stopped, abortions would stop.

                  ESR didn't stop. Bush stopped federal funding for it.

                  If you want to do embryonic stem cell research, feel free to purchase your own labs, hire your own researchers and buy your own equipment.

                  And no, I'm not telling you how I got Ax's login information.

                  AFAIK, it was restored under Obama - 13 years ago.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • G George K
                    18 Feb 2021, 02:18

                    @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                    I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                    Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                    Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:46 last edited by
                    #61

                    @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                    @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                    I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                    Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                    Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                    I'll consider this relevant as soon as we get back to the other two quotes I referenced. If they aren't relevant than neither is any of this.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • A Aqua Letifer
                      18 Feb 2021, 02:46

                      @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                      @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                      I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                      Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                      Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                      I'll consider this relevant as soon as we get back to the other two quotes I referenced. If they aren't relevant than neither is any of this.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:48 last edited by
                      #62

                      @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                      @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                      @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                      I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                      Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                      Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                      I'll consider this relevant as soon as we get back to the other two quotes I referenced. If they aren't relevant than neither is any of this.

                      What, the other two quotes including the one at the top, about how dark skinned people are worthless?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:54 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #63

                        Clearly, Rush said some pretty reprehensible stuff. I'm not totally clear why "conservatives" have to pretend otherwise.

                        I'm happy to concede that Michael Moore is a complete twat, I don't really understand why we feel the need to defend Rush, except for it possibly to be in rather poor taste to speak ill of the dead, which is why I never say anything bad about Hitler.

                        I was only joking

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          18 Feb 2021, 02:54

                          Clearly, Rush said some pretty reprehensible stuff. I'm not totally clear why "conservatives" have to pretend otherwise.

                          I'm happy to concede that Michael Moore is a complete twat, I don't really understand why we feel the need to defend Rush, except for it possibly to be in rather poor taste to speak ill of the dead, which is why I never say anything bad about Hitler.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 02:55 last edited by Horace
                          #64

                          @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                          Clearly, Rush said some pretty reprehensible stuff. I'm not totally clear why we have to pretend otherwise.

                          I'm happy to concede that Michael Moore is a complete twat, I don't really understand why we feel the need to defend Rush, except for it possibly to be in rather poor taste to speak ill of the dead, which is why I never say anything bad about Hitler.

                          Well Rush produced way, way more content than Michael Moore. They are both reprehensible to their other tribes, I am sure, but Rush was way better looking.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            18 Feb 2021, 01:19

                            @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

                            he was not a nutter.

                            "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                            "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

                            "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 03:05 last edited by
                            #65

                            @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                            "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                            Without context this could go either way.

                            Is he rejecting racism or encouraging it?

                            Either way, I bet this topic stirred up a lot of listeners and sold advertising.

                            Yes, I know the 12% number is used in discussions of quotas.
                            Yes, I know the word "quota" is forbidden, it just saves time to use it here.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 03:06 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #66

                              If the kindest thing you can say about Rush is that he was better looking than Michael Moore, it might be better to just draw the curtains, pull the lever, and let the coffin roll on to its final destination.

                              I was only joking

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                18 Feb 2021, 02:11

                                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

                                he was not a nutter.

                                "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                                "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

                                "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

                                Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

                                Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

                                By the way, imagine how your would have reacted if Larry was Black. Just imagine.

                                I'd no doubt have accompanied him on the banjo-ukelele as he sang a famous rendition of 'Way down on the Suwannee River'.

                                Don't pull the fucking race card.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 04:04 last edited by
                                #67

                                @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

                                he was not a nutter.

                                "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                                "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

                                "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

                                Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

                                Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

                                By the way, imagine how your would have reacted if Larry was Black. Just imagine.

                                I'd no doubt have accompanied him on the banjo-ukelele as he sang a famous rendition of 'Way down on the Suwannee River'.

                                Don't pull the fucking race card.

                                Why not?

                                Over the years, do you know how many people thought Larry was black?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  18 Feb 2021, 02:46

                                  @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                  I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                                  Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                                  Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                                  I'll consider this relevant as soon as we get back to the other two quotes I referenced. If they aren't relevant than neither is any of this.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 04:07 last edited by
                                  #68

                                  @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                  I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                                  Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                                  Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                                  I'll consider this relevant as soon as we get back to the other two quotes I referenced. If they aren't relevant than neither is any of this.

                                  George asked for context. I don't think you have provided any.

                                  Besides, the man was on the air for three hours a day, five days a week for thirty years. You want to go hunting crap to stake out a position? I'm sure you could find just about anything you wanted.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 04:23 last edited by
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                                    Condolences to Mr. Limbaugh’s family and loved ones.

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                                    • G George K
                                      18 Feb 2021, 02:01

                                      @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                      Justify for me please the other two quotes then.

                                      Won't and can't. I don't know the context, and I'm too lazy to look it up. You can form and keep your own opinions on those. I don't have any.

                                      I do, however, recall the MJF stuff.

                                      And, by the way, how did all that embryonic stem cell stuff work out, almost 20 years later?

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 06:19 last edited by jon-nyc
                                      #70

                                      @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                                      And, by the way, how did all that embryonic stem cell stuff work out, almost 20 years later?

                                      It became a non-issue with the development of pluripotent stem cells.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        18 Feb 2021, 04:04

                                        @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

                                        he was not a nutter.

                                        "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                                        "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

                                        "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

                                        Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

                                        Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

                                        By the way, imagine how your would have reacted if Larry was Black. Just imagine.

                                        I'd no doubt have accompanied him on the banjo-ukelele as he sang a famous rendition of 'Way down on the Suwannee River'.

                                        Don't pull the fucking race card.

                                        Why not?

                                        Over the years, do you know how many people thought Larry was black?

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 10:48 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                        #71

                                        @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

                                        he was not a nutter.

                                        "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                                        "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

                                        "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

                                        Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

                                        Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

                                        By the way, imagine how your would have reacted if Larry was Black. Just imagine.

                                        I'd no doubt have accompanied him on the banjo-ukelele as he sang a famous rendition of 'Way down on the Suwannee River'.

                                        Don't pull the fucking race card.

                                        Why not?

                                        Over the years, do you know how many people thought Larry was black?

                                        Basically, Horace is calling me a racist. Not 'liberals in general'. Me. In a moderately nice way admittedly, but that's what he's doing. It's probably not what he intended, but the fact that I took issue with something Larry wrote has nothing whatsoever to do with his skin colour. Maybe we should ask why we don't take issue with questionable things that people on our own side write, rather than try to bring the American obsession with race into the discussion.

                                        And I wasn't nasty about Larry. All I did was say he'd posted some rather nasty stuff, which I completely stand by. He took offence, I didn't intend to give it.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • H Horace
                                          18 Feb 2021, 02:16

                                          @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                          What the fuck are you on about?

                                          A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

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                                          Catseye3
                                          wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 13:07 last edited by
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                                          @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                          A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

                                          Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

                                          As for Limbaugh: I wouldn't have wished his illness and suffering and death on him, but I'm not grieving, either. To me he was annoying.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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