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RIP Rush.

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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

    @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

    "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

    Fox admitted to not taking his meds to exaggerate the symptoms of his Parkinson's disease in the hope of encouraging stem cell research.

    So yeah, Rush was right on that one, at least.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/rush-limbaugh/citing-limbaugh-fox-31-misled-michael-j-fox-stem-cell-ad

    I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.

    Justify for me please the other two quotes then.

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    Horace
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    #46

    @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

    @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

    @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

    "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

    Fox admitted to not taking his meds to exaggerate the symptoms of his Parkinson's disease in the hope of encouraging stem cell research.

    So yeah, Rush was right on that one, at least.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/rush-limbaugh/citing-limbaugh-fox-31-misled-michael-j-fox-stem-cell-ad

    I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.

    Justify for me please the other two quotes then.

    I'm all for stem cell research. I understand what Parkinson's looks like. Rush was wrong there.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @horace said in RIP Rush.:

      @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

      @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

      he was not a nutter.

      "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

      "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

      "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

      Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

      Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

      HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #47

      @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

      @horace said in RIP Rush.:

      @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

      @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

      he was not a nutter.

      "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

      "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

      "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

      Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

      Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

      Yes, he did. I still hope he comes back.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

        @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

        "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

        Fox admitted to not taking his meds to exaggerate the symptoms of his Parkinson's disease in the hope of encouraging stem cell research.

        So yeah, Rush was right on that one, at least.

        https://www.mediamatters.org/rush-limbaugh/citing-limbaugh-fox-31-misled-michael-j-fox-stem-cell-ad

        I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.

        Justify for me please the other two quotes then.

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        George K
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        #48

        @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

        Justify for me please the other two quotes then.

        Won't and can't. I don't know the context, and I'm too lazy to look it up. You can form and keep your own opinions on those. I don't have any.

        I do, however, recall the MJF stuff.

        And, by the way, how did all that embryonic stem cell stuff work out, almost 20 years later?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @horace said in RIP Rush.:

          @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

          @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

          he was not a nutter.

          "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

          "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

          "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

          Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

          Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by Horace
          #49

          @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

          @horace said in RIP Rush.:

          @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

          @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

          he was not a nutter.

          "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

          "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

          "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

          Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

          Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

          By the way, imagine how you would have reacted if Larry was Black. Just imagine.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • George KG George K

            @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

            Justify for me please the other two quotes then.

            Won't and can't. I don't know the context, and I'm too lazy to look it up. You can form and keep your own opinions on those. I don't have any.

            I do, however, recall the MJF stuff.

            And, by the way, how did all that embryonic stem cell stuff work out, almost 20 years later?

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #50

            @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

            @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

            Justify for me please the other two quotes then.

            Won't and can't. I don't know the context, and I'm too lazy to look it up. You can form and keep your own opinions on those. I don't have any.

            I do, however, recall the MJF stuff.

            And, by the way, how did all that embryonic stem cell stuff work out, almost 20 years later?

            I have no idea what that refers to at all.

            Please love yourself.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

              @horace said in RIP Rush.:

              @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

              @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

              he was not a nutter.

              "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

              "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

              "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

              Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

              Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

              By the way, imagine how you would have reacted if Larry was Black. Just imagine.

              Doctor PhibesD Online
              Doctor PhibesD Online
              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
              #51

              @horace said in RIP Rush.:

              @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

              @horace said in RIP Rush.:

              @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

              @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

              he was not a nutter.

              "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

              "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

              "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

              Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

              Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

              By the way, imagine how your would have reacted if Larry was Black. Just imagine.

              I'd no doubt have accompanied him on the banjo-ukelele as he sang a famous rendition of 'Way down on the Suwannee River'.

              Don't pull the fucking race card.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

                he was not a nutter.

                "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

                "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

                Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

                Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

                By the way, imagine how your would have reacted if Larry was Black. Just imagine.

                I'd no doubt have accompanied him on the banjo-ukelele as he sang a famous rendition of 'Way down on the Suwannee River'.

                Don't pull the fucking race card.

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #52

                @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

                he was not a nutter.

                "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

                "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

                Not sure the first paragraph is honest. The next two, well, four hours a day, and I don't know what MJF was saying at the time. We should ask Larry about the Indians but he was already driven off by the liberals who don't like him.

                Oh, do fuck off. Honestly, Larry doled out way more vitriol than anything he received from me and "all the liberals" here.

                By the way, imagine how your would have reacted if Larry was Black. Just imagine.

                I'd no doubt have accompanied him on the banjo-ukelele as he sang a famous rendition of 'Way down on the Suwannee River'.

                Don't pull the fucking race card.

                Please. It's obvious.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #53

                  What the fuck are you on about?

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    What the fuck are you on about?

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #54

                    @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                    What the fuck are you on about?

                    A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #55

                      What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                      I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                        I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
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                        #56

                        @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                        What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                        I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                        I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                          @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                          Justify for me please the other two quotes then.

                          Won't and can't. I don't know the context, and I'm too lazy to look it up. You can form and keep your own opinions on those. I don't have any.

                          I do, however, recall the MJF stuff.

                          And, by the way, how did all that embryonic stem cell stuff work out, almost 20 years later?

                          I have no idea what that refers to at all.

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                          George K
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                          #57

                          @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                          I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                          Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                          Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                            What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                            I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                            I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #58

                            @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                            @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                            What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                            I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                            I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

                            I'm sad he left, too.

                            But, if you're going to dish it out as much as he did, I think you do have to be prepared to take a little back.

                            I was only joking

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                            • George KG George K

                              @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                              I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                              Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                              Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                              Doctor PhibesD Online
                              Doctor PhibesD Online
                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #59

                              @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                              @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                              I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                              Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                              Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                              Presumably, the idea was that if embryonic research stopped, abortions would stop.

                              How's that working out?

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                                @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                                Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                                Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                                Presumably, the idea was that if embryonic research stopped, abortions would stop.

                                How's that working out?

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                                George K
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                                @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                Presumably, the idea was that if embryonic research stopped, abortions would stop.

                                ESR didn't stop. Bush stopped federal funding for it.

                                If you want to do embryonic stem cell research, feel free to purchase your own labs, hire your own researchers and buy your own equipment.

                                And no, I'm not telling you how I got Ax's login information.

                                AFAIK, it was restored under Obama - 13 years ago.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                  I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                                  Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                                  Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  #61

                                  @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                  I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                                  Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                                  Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                                  I'll consider this relevant as soon as we get back to the other two quotes I referenced. If they aren't relevant than neither is any of this.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                                    @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                    I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                                    Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                                    Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                                    I'll consider this relevant as soon as we get back to the other two quotes I referenced. If they aren't relevant than neither is any of this.

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                                    @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                    @george-k said in RIP Rush.:

                                    @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                    I have no idea what that refers to at all.

                                    Fox testified in Congress opposing the Bush administrations ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Note, there was no "ban" on this research; it was a ban of federal funding for it. For his testimony, advocating more funds for embryonic stem cell research, he stopped his medications to exaggerate the ravages of his Parkinson's disease. It was theater.

                                    Almost 20 years later, has ESC research made any progress in the treatment of Parkinson's?

                                    I'll consider this relevant as soon as we get back to the other two quotes I referenced. If they aren't relevant than neither is any of this.

                                    What, the other two quotes including the one at the top, about how dark skinned people are worthless?

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #63

                                      Clearly, Rush said some pretty reprehensible stuff. I'm not totally clear why "conservatives" have to pretend otherwise.

                                      I'm happy to concede that Michael Moore is a complete twat, I don't really understand why we feel the need to defend Rush, except for it possibly to be in rather poor taste to speak ill of the dead, which is why I never say anything bad about Hitler.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        Clearly, Rush said some pretty reprehensible stuff. I'm not totally clear why "conservatives" have to pretend otherwise.

                                        I'm happy to concede that Michael Moore is a complete twat, I don't really understand why we feel the need to defend Rush, except for it possibly to be in rather poor taste to speak ill of the dead, which is why I never say anything bad about Hitler.

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                                        Horace
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                                        #64

                                        @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                                        Clearly, Rush said some pretty reprehensible stuff. I'm not totally clear why we have to pretend otherwise.

                                        I'm happy to concede that Michael Moore is a complete twat, I don't really understand why we feel the need to defend Rush, except for it possibly to be in rather poor taste to speak ill of the dead, which is why I never say anything bad about Hitler.

                                        Well Rush produced way, way more content than Michael Moore. They are both reprehensible to their other tribes, I am sure, but Rush was way better looking.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @jolly said in RIP Rush.:

                                          he was not a nutter.

                                          "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                                          "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

                                          "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

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                                          @aqua-letifer said in RIP Rush.:

                                          "They [black people] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

                                          Without context this could go either way.

                                          Is he rejecting racism or encouraging it?

                                          Either way, I bet this topic stirred up a lot of listeners and sold advertising.

                                          Yes, I know the 12% number is used in discussions of quotas.
                                          Yes, I know the word "quota" is forbidden, it just saves time to use it here.

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