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  • J Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 08:59 last edited by jon-nyc
    #1

    Chile is kicking ass on vaccinations. 12 per hundred just in the last 2 weeks.

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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
    G 1 Reply Last reply 17 Feb 2021, 12:52
    • J jon-nyc
      17 Feb 2021, 08:59

      Chile is kicking ass on vaccinations. 12 per hundred just in the last 2 weeks.

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      George K
      wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 12:52 last edited by
      #2

      @jon-nyc so is the US.

      And, of course, Israel.

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      But...Chile????

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:04 last edited by
        #3

        Right but we’ve had several threads on the Israeli vaccination success already. I figured no one knew about Chile’s success.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:07 last edited by jon-nyc
          #4

          I’m not shocked, but I’m surprised. Like Israel, they have a small population and it’s mostly urbanized. Centralized health system. But clearly they prepped so once they had supply they could take off. They appear to be taking weekends off though. Honestly that’s not too surprising either.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • J jon-nyc
            17 Feb 2021, 13:04

            Right but we’ve had several threads on the Israeli vaccination success already. I figured no one knew about Chile’s success.

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            George K
            wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:12 last edited by
            #5

            @jon-nyc said in Chile vs EU:

            I figured no one knew about Chile’s success.

            Yeah, that's why I said "Chile???"

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:12 last edited by
              #6

              I think once they get the large centers of Santiago, Valparaiso, and Concepcion it’ll slow down a lot. Lots of tiny remote villages in the Andes to deal with. But small population.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:30 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #7

                There's no UK in that graph, but they seem to be delivering doing really well, too - up at 23% (no, that can't be right - I must be reading the stats wrong), anyway they're ahead of the EU and US.

                Another triumph for the NHS 😬

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  17 Feb 2021, 13:30

                  There's no UK in that graph, but they seem to be delivering doing really well, too - up at 23% (no, that can't be right - I must be reading the stats wrong), anyway they're ahead of the EU and US.

                  Another triumph for the NHS 😬

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                  George K
                  wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:42 last edited by
                  #8

                  @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                  There's no UK in that graph, but they seem to be delivering doing really well, too - up at 23% (no, that can't be right - I must be reading the stats wrong), anyway they're ahead of the EU and US.

                  Another triumph for the NHS 😬

                  Are you talking about one dose?

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                  Or fully vaccinated?

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 15:06 last edited by
                    #9

                    OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                    I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                    I was only joking

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 13:34 last edited by jon-nyc
                      #10

                      Update: Chile kept kicking ass.

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                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 15:57 last edited by
                        #11

                        And go Canada!

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          17 Feb 2021, 15:06

                          OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                          I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:41 last edited by
                          #12

                          @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                          OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                          I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                          Intuitively I believe this is the case.

                          Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply 20 Jun 2021, 01:17
                          • L Loki
                            19 Jun 2021, 18:41

                            @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                            OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                            I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                            Intuitively I believe this is the case.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 01:17 last edited by
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                            @loki said in Chile vs EU:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                            OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                            I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                            Intuitively I believe this is the case.

                            Delta variant is basically calling bullshit on this. Those with only one shot aren't doing nearly as well as those with both.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 02:02 last edited by
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                              I think the question is not whether one shot is better than 2.

                              The question is, which is better, X people with 2 shots or 2X people with 1 shot.

                              And then what does better mean? Maybe the case count, maybe the death toll, maybe something else.

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                              • CopperC Copper
                                20 Jun 2021, 02:02

                                I think the question is not whether one shot is better than 2.

                                The question is, which is better, X people with 2 shots or 2X people with 1 shot.

                                And then what does better mean? Maybe the case count, maybe the death toll, maybe something else.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 03:52 last edited by
                                #15

                                @copper said in Chile vs EU:

                                I think the question is not whether one shot is better than 2.

                                The question is, which is better, X people with 2 shots or 2X people with 1 shot.

                                And then what does better mean? Maybe the case count, maybe the death toll, maybe something else.

                                this.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer
                                  20 Jun 2021, 01:17

                                  @loki said in Chile vs EU:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                                  OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                                  I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                                  Intuitively I believe this is the case.

                                  Delta variant is basically calling bullshit on this. Those with only one shot aren't doing nearly as well as those with both.

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 11:31 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Chile vs EU:

                                  @loki said in Chile vs EU:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                                  OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                                  I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                                  Intuitively I believe this is the case.

                                  Delta variant is basically calling bullshit on this. Those with only one shot aren't doing nearly as well as those with both.

                                  And that’s the nature of mutations. Right call at the time, I should have clarified. But you are right about the new data on the delta variant. More worrying is that delta seems to be hitting folks that had Coronavirus so the I had Covid and don’t need a vaccine stance is going to have consequences.

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