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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:07 last edited by jon-nyc
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    I’m not shocked, but I’m surprised. Like Israel, they have a small population and it’s mostly urbanized. Centralized health system. But clearly they prepped so once they had supply they could take off. They appear to be taking weekends off though. Honestly that’s not too surprising either.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      17 Feb 2021, 13:04

      Right but we’ve had several threads on the Israeli vaccination success already. I figured no one knew about Chile’s success.

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      George K
      wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:12 last edited by
      #5

      @jon-nyc said in Chile vs EU:

      I figured no one knew about Chile’s success.

      Yeah, that's why I said "Chile???"

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:12 last edited by
        #6

        I think once they get the large centers of Santiago, Valparaiso, and Concepcion it’ll slow down a lot. Lots of tiny remote villages in the Andes to deal with. But small population.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:30 last edited by Doctor Phibes
          #7

          There's no UK in that graph, but they seem to be delivering doing really well, too - up at 23% (no, that can't be right - I must be reading the stats wrong), anyway they're ahead of the EU and US.

          Another triumph for the NHS 😬

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            17 Feb 2021, 13:30

            There's no UK in that graph, but they seem to be delivering doing really well, too - up at 23% (no, that can't be right - I must be reading the stats wrong), anyway they're ahead of the EU and US.

            Another triumph for the NHS 😬

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            George K
            wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 13:42 last edited by
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            @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

            There's no UK in that graph, but they seem to be delivering doing really well, too - up at 23% (no, that can't be right - I must be reading the stats wrong), anyway they're ahead of the EU and US.

            Another triumph for the NHS 😬

            Are you talking about one dose?

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            Or fully vaccinated?

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 15:06 last edited by
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              OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

              I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

              I was only joking

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 13:34 last edited by jon-nyc
                #10

                Update: Chile kept kicking ass.

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                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 15:57 last edited by
                  #11

                  And go Canada!

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    17 Feb 2021, 15:06

                    OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                    I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:41 last edited by
                    #12

                    @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                    OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                    I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                    Intuitively I believe this is the case.

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                    • L Loki
                      19 Jun 2021, 18:41

                      @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                      OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                      I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                      Intuitively I believe this is the case.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 01:17 last edited by
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                      @loki said in Chile vs EU:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                      OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                      I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                      Intuitively I believe this is the case.

                      Delta variant is basically calling bullshit on this. Those with only one shot aren't doing nearly as well as those with both.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 02:02 last edited by
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                        I think the question is not whether one shot is better than 2.

                        The question is, which is better, X people with 2 shots or 2X people with 1 shot.

                        And then what does better mean? Maybe the case count, maybe the death toll, maybe something else.

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                        • CopperC Copper
                          20 Jun 2021, 02:02

                          I think the question is not whether one shot is better than 2.

                          The question is, which is better, X people with 2 shots or 2X people with 1 shot.

                          And then what does better mean? Maybe the case count, maybe the death toll, maybe something else.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 03:52 last edited by
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                          @copper said in Chile vs EU:

                          I think the question is not whether one shot is better than 2.

                          The question is, which is better, X people with 2 shots or 2X people with 1 shot.

                          And then what does better mean? Maybe the case count, maybe the death toll, maybe something else.

                          this.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer
                            20 Jun 2021, 01:17

                            @loki said in Chile vs EU:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                            OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                            I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                            Intuitively I believe this is the case.

                            Delta variant is basically calling bullshit on this. Those with only one shot aren't doing nearly as well as those with both.

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                            Loki
                            wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 11:31 last edited by
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                            @aqua-letifer said in Chile vs EU:

                            @loki said in Chile vs EU:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Chile vs EU:

                            OK, that explains it. The UK have focused on getting as many people as possible vaccinated with the first dose, the theory being the first dose reduces the risk significantly.

                            I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it's a good strategy.

                            Intuitively I believe this is the case.

                            Delta variant is basically calling bullshit on this. Those with only one shot aren't doing nearly as well as those with both.

                            And that’s the nature of mutations. Right call at the time, I should have clarified. But you are right about the new data on the delta variant. More worrying is that delta seems to be hitting folks that had Coronavirus so the I had Covid and don’t need a vaccine stance is going to have consequences.

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