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  • D Doctor Phibes
    22 Apr 2020, 22:54

    It seems to me that certain conservatives have lost the 'Covid is just like the flu' argument, and now they're changing the direction of the smoke they're trying to blow up our arses to one of civil liberties.

    (Sarcasm)It kind of makes you wonder about their real motivation.

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    Copper
    wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 23:03 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

    It seems to me that certain conservatives have lost the 'Covid is just like the flu' argument,

    The real motivation is evil, pure and simple, evil.

    And the 'Covid is no worse than the flu' argument ended a few days ago when deaths from COVID exceeded deaths from this year's flu. COVID wins.

    Of course the year is an arbitrary period of time and you could choose a longer period if it suits your purpose. For example, the number of flu deaths over the last 5 years is far greater than the number from COVID.

    Pandemics are not limited by a single year, so if you are just comparing total deaths, there are options.

    Of course when you throw in the economic impact, there is no comparison.

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    • C Copper
      22 Apr 2020, 23:03

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

      It seems to me that certain conservatives have lost the 'Covid is just like the flu' argument,

      The real motivation is evil, pure and simple, evil.

      And the 'Covid is no worse than the flu' argument ended a few days ago when deaths from COVID exceeded deaths from this year's flu. COVID wins.

      Of course the year is an arbitrary period of time and you could choose a longer period if it suits your purpose. For example, the number of flu deaths over the last 5 years is far greater than the number from COVID.

      Pandemics are not limited by a single year, so if you are just comparing total deaths, there are options.

      Of course when you throw in the economic impact, there is no comparison.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 23:06 last edited by
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      @Copper said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

      It seems to me that certain conservatives have lost the 'Covid is just like the flu' argument,

      And the 'Covid is no worse than the flu' argument ended a few days ago when deaths from COVID exceeded deaths from this year's flu. COVID wins.

      There was an entire forum of people who knew that was going to happen, for months. They knew because the projections provided no possibility otherwise. None.

      It ended a few days ago for you and only you.

      Please love yourself.

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      • A Aqua Letifer
        22 Apr 2020, 23:06

        @Copper said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

        It seems to me that certain conservatives have lost the 'Covid is just like the flu' argument,

        And the 'Covid is no worse than the flu' argument ended a few days ago when deaths from COVID exceeded deaths from this year's flu. COVID wins.

        There was an entire forum of people who knew that was going to happen, for months. They knew because the projections provided no possibility otherwise. None.

        It ended a few days ago for you and only you.

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        Copper
        wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 23:13 last edited by
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        @Aqua-Letifer said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

        @Copper said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

        It seems to me that certain conservatives have lost the 'Covid is just like the flu' argument,

        And the 'Covid is no worse than the flu' argument ended a few days ago when deaths from COVID exceeded deaths from this year's flu. COVID wins.

        There was an entire forum of people who knew that was going to happen, for months. They knew because the projections provided no possibility otherwise. None.

        It ended a few days ago for you and only you.

        You may recall when I first pointed out to you that the game was not yet over I told you that COVID would win.

        The game isn't over until it is over. Sorry, it just isn't, no matter what an entire forum, including me, might predict.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 23:15 last edited by
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          Okay, but that's a dangerous way of analyzing a situation with a three-week lag between what's reported and what's actually happening.

          Please love yourself.

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            Copper
            wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 23:17 last edited by
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            It is a simple scoreboard.

            It is exactly the same scoreboard that is used for every pandemic in the history of mankind.

            It is simple, it only takes a moment.

            It does not preclude any other analysis.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 01:22 last edited by Doctor Phibes
              #13

              I'm sure some people waited until the end of 1941 before finally concluding that the Nazis were really bad people.

              I was only joking

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                23 Apr 2020, 01:22

                I'm sure some people waited until the end of 1941 before finally concluding that the Nazis were really bad people.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 01:33 last edited by
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

                I'm sure some people waited until the end of 1941 before finally concluding that the Nazis were really bad people.

                Heck, even as recently as 2017 you got a statement like "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

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                • A Axtremus
                  23 Apr 2020, 01:33

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

                  I'm sure some people waited until the end of 1941 before finally concluding that the Nazis were really bad people.

                  Heck, even as recently as 2017 you got a statement like "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

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                  George K
                  wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 11:14 last edited by George K
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                  @Axtremus said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

                  Heck, even as recently as 2017 you got a statement like "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

                  You do know the context of that quotation, don't you?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 11:28 last edited by
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                    That was definitely a case of fake news. It’s beyond clear that he was talking about both sides of the confederate statue issue, he wasn’t talk about the tiki wielding skinheads.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • G George K
                      23 Apr 2020, 11:14

                      @Axtremus said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

                      Heck, even as recently as 2017 you got a statement like "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

                      You do know the context of that quotation, don't you?

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                      Improviso
                      wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 12:35 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

                      @Axtremus said in Governors' stay-at-home orders are 'unconstitutional,' cases won't hold up in court:

                      Heck, even as recently as 2017 you got a statement like "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

                      You do know the context of that quotation, don't you?

                      I'm sure he does, but it doesn't fit his narrative. As usual.

                      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 12:49 last edited by
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                        I doubt he does.

                        Really, this is one the media has only ever distorted so people genuinely believe he was saying there were nice people among the tiki wielding demonstrators.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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